Things that make you go hmmmmm

Insurance giant Kaiser Permanente – which is also a health-care provider – has commissioned a study to evaluate the effectiveness of the mRNA vaccine against the dominant omicron subvariants.

Kaiser discovered that people who are triple-vaccinated not only are more likely to be infected with COVID-19, they are more likely to suffer severe illness and die from the disease,

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losthorizons · 51-55, M

Yep. Been saying this for 2 years. Watch all the sheep take another shot. Lol

TexChik · F

As was the plan.

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hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M

@jshm2 So you like being forced to take a dangerous nostrum to prevent a cold?

ElwoodBlues · M

@jshm2 Don't worry. K-P actually says the Covid vaccines are safe and effective; see my post.

littlepuppywantanewlife · 31-35, M

Do you think people dying with cardiac arrest in 40's are due to vaccination?

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littlepuppywantanewlife · 31-35, M

@hippyjoe1955 Well I wasn't going to even take the first dose. But it became compulsory and my boss pressured me for the same. I had to work to get income. It was hard because I was already at home for a year in 2020

hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M

@littlepuppywantanewlife It is rough. Sad that you were forced.

ElwoodBlues · M

@littlepuppywantanewlife [quote]Do you think people dying with cardiac arrest in 40's are due to vaccination?[/quote] Turns out the alleged increase in cardiac arrest is probably just cherry picking. Some anti-vaxxers are spreading the lie that FIFA footballers are dying at a higher rate after vaccination.

This article, "FIFA Sudden Death Registry (FIFA-SDR): a prospective, observational study of sudden death in worldwide football from 2014 to 2018"
says 617 FIFA players died of SCD within an hour of playing over a 5 year period = 123 per year (2014-2018).
[b]https://bjsm.bmj.com/content/56/2/80[/b]

And this article says about 108 died in 2021 - a [b][i]reduction[/i][/b] in the FIFA death rate after vaccination!!
[b]https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-coronavirus-sport/fact-check-list-of-108-fifa-soccer-players-is-not-proof-of-a-common-link-between-covid-19-vaccines-and-athlete-deaths-idUSL1N2T81NY[/b]

Note: I'm making no statistical claims about the drop in FIFA deaths during the 2021 vaccination year; merely pointing out how wrong the anti-vaxxers got it.

Quimliqer · 70-79, M

HTTPS://Healthy.kaiserpermanente.org

Just read their research paper and I think you need to do the same.

hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M

@Quimliqer Already did. Their research backs up the fact that the covid vaxes are dangerous. No need for them because covid is not a threat. The vaxes are a threat as more and more people are suffering and dying from them. I lost 4 people to the jab and almost everyone I know who has been jabbed had and adverse reaction. None of the jabbed I know have avoided covid and seem to have it worse than those who didn't get jabbed. One guy lost 30% of his body mass after he got covid. He is triple jabbed and was off work for 6 weeks. He picked the virus up in a camp where you had to be jabbed to go there. Of the 6 people I sent to that camp 6 were sick with covid while there. One of them was on his third bout despite his jabbed status. The jabs are useless at best and dangerous at worst and the more evidence that is coming out the more dangerous they appear. BTW covid for most people is a cold/flu that you get over in a few days.

Quimliqer · 70-79, M

@hippyjoe1955 Their research states if anyone has an allergic sensitivity to any of the vaccine ingredients, don’t take them.

hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M

@Quimliqer The fact remains that the vax does no good but does immense harm. Not sure why anyone still supports the use of them. As one Member of the European Parliament noted, the death rate is highest where the vax rate is highest. Those who are not vaxed have a better chance of living than the vaxed.

ElwoodBlues · M

Thanks, I looked it up, and you've got it [u]ALL BACKWARDS!!![/u]

[quote] [b]Science shows that the COVID-19 vaccines are effective[/b]
Kaiser Permanente | December 21, 2021 [/quote]

[quote] [b]How we know the COVID-19 vaccine is safe and effective[/b]
Kaiser Permanente | February 11, 2022[/quote]

[quote][b]3 Doses of Pfizer COVID-19 Vaccine Better than 2[/b]
Kaiser Permanente study assessed Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine effectiveness against infection, hospitalization, and death up to 8 months after vaccination.[/quote]

hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M

@ElwoodBlues Oh look the idiot is back with his cut and paste. Time for me to ignore his stupidity once again.

ElwoodBlues · M

@hippyjoe1955 K-P says the OPPOSITE of what you claim, LOL!!!

Now THAT'S a thing that makes me go hmmmmm

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