Question for people that had covid. Did u feel invincible?
I mean after your illness passed and you were immune to the virus for next 6 months, did u feel any way? Like you didnt have to use a mask, etc.
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Not in the least. I've never felt invincible.
I was fully vaccinated and I believe that helped to lessen the severity of my illness. I also believe it means my immune system is working reasonably well at present.
But the virus mutates at a relatively fast rate and, like the flu, some versions will always be far more deadly than others. There are no guarantees that the next version might be too much for my body to cope with. What worries me most is not so much the suffering of death by covid but the risks of long covid and permanent disability; for me that would be worse than death.
I take every precaution I can to avoid catching it - but no matter how much I reduce the risk, the chances are high that I will catch both flu and covid again at some point.
Further, the virologists predict than more and worse viruses will emerge. This too is inevitable because so many people are continually travelling around the planet.
I was fully vaccinated and I believe that helped to lessen the severity of my illness. I also believe it means my immune system is working reasonably well at present.
But the virus mutates at a relatively fast rate and, like the flu, some versions will always be far more deadly than others. There are no guarantees that the next version might be too much for my body to cope with. What worries me most is not so much the suffering of death by covid but the risks of long covid and permanent disability; for me that would be worse than death.
I take every precaution I can to avoid catching it - but no matter how much I reduce the risk, the chances are high that I will catch both flu and covid again at some point.
Further, the virologists predict than more and worse viruses will emerge. This too is inevitable because so many people are continually travelling around the planet.
Dan193 · 31-35, M
@hartfire I'm pretty scared rn as well. I had somebody sick with it 3 weeks ago, in my household, but somehow I managed to avoid it. And now this week, a person came over, even though his parents had the signs, caugh and all (he lives with them), but he came over and didnt tell anyone, because later he said he was fine, he had no symptoms himself. Like what a fucking selfish guh..
Anyway, I live with 3 covid positive people rn. I don't know, I need a miracle.
Anyway, I live with 3 covid positive people rn. I don't know, I need a miracle.
@Dan193 Do your best with plenty of ventilation, masks and hand hygiene. See if those with covid are willing to isolate in their bedroom and take care with use of toilet and bathroom facilities.
Cook for them and deliver their meals to their rooms. One day it may be their turn to care for you.
Minimise your stress, have plenty of walks in open air, get plenty of sleep and keep up your vit C levels -- helps maintain better immune system.
Cook for them and deliver their meals to their rooms. One day it may be their turn to care for you.
Minimise your stress, have plenty of walks in open air, get plenty of sleep and keep up your vit C levels -- helps maintain better immune system.
@Dan193 Thanks for the positive feedback.
I wish you all success in avoiding it, and if it does catch you may you be lucky and only get a mild version with no lingering after effects.
I'm 66 and generally very healthy. I've had four shots. I caught a mild (Omega) version about 7 weeks after the third shot. My husband caught it from a group meeting and I caught it from him. For both of us it felt similar to a particularly intense and miserable influenza with slight differences, raging migraine for the first three days, completely zonked with no energy, and racking dry cough. It took around three weeks after the end of the last symptoms to feel full recovered. Having come through it, I feel grateful that my shots and immunity coped and possibly saved me from a far worse experience. I have less fear of it now - though I still take every precaution. And I'm aware of the stats that what happens once might be different the next time. It really is a kind of lottery. For me, vacs and natural immunity are not a complete shield but they do improve my statistical odds about a thousand times.
I wish you all success in avoiding it, and if it does catch you may you be lucky and only get a mild version with no lingering after effects.
I'm 66 and generally very healthy. I've had four shots. I caught a mild (Omega) version about 7 weeks after the third shot. My husband caught it from a group meeting and I caught it from him. For both of us it felt similar to a particularly intense and miserable influenza with slight differences, raging migraine for the first three days, completely zonked with no energy, and racking dry cough. It took around three weeks after the end of the last symptoms to feel full recovered. Having come through it, I feel grateful that my shots and immunity coped and possibly saved me from a far worse experience. I have less fear of it now - though I still take every precaution. And I'm aware of the stats that what happens once might be different the next time. It really is a kind of lottery. For me, vacs and natural immunity are not a complete shield but they do improve my statistical odds about a thousand times.
Dan193 · 31-35, M
@hartfire thats very interesting, also I forgot to mention, an addition to all those tips - drinking water/liquids very frequently throughout the day. It helps to not have the virus lingering in your throat, from breathing and stuff.
Also I'm curious, you said you got 4 shots, were they from the same company or different ones? I heard of a tactic called cross vaccination. Basically the idea behind it is that all the available vaccines against covid, work in different ways, one raises the antibodies in you, another is based on proteins, etc. So the trick is by having a cross of 3 or 4 of them, prepares your body to fight the virus on multiple fronts, in different ways.
Also I'm curious, you said you got 4 shots, were they from the same company or different ones? I heard of a tactic called cross vaccination. Basically the idea behind it is that all the available vaccines against covid, work in different ways, one raises the antibodies in you, another is based on proteins, etc. So the trick is by having a cross of 3 or 4 of them, prepares your body to fight the virus on multiple fronts, in different ways.
@Dan193 My first shot was Astrazeneca - no strong reaction, mild soreness in the arm for a day, could feel the injection site for a few weeks, a tiny bump under the skin.
My 2nd, 3rd & 4th shots were Pfizer because it had the highest rate of success and because my doctor had in stock. I felt a tiny bit flu-ish for 3 days with the first, and the little lump at the injection site (different spot in the upper arm) was larger, a little more sore and lasted longer. With the 3rd and 4th vacs I had no reactions at all.
I do think the idea of cross vacs is a good one, and will probably choose that with my chemist if I feel the need of another booster - probably if there's another big wave or a more serious variant comes along.
My area has a very high rate of unvaxed people, up to 40% (mostly people with anti-authoritarian and trust issues), mostly among the 20 - 40 age groups.
But my closest social connections are all vaxxed by choice.
While I do, obviously, trust the science, I also accept that it is each individuals right to choose - even if that proves costly to some of us. Although I was very worried in the beginning, I'm now calm about it and accept the reality of necessary precautions and living with the risk.
My 2nd, 3rd & 4th shots were Pfizer because it had the highest rate of success and because my doctor had in stock. I felt a tiny bit flu-ish for 3 days with the first, and the little lump at the injection site (different spot in the upper arm) was larger, a little more sore and lasted longer. With the 3rd and 4th vacs I had no reactions at all.
I do think the idea of cross vacs is a good one, and will probably choose that with my chemist if I feel the need of another booster - probably if there's another big wave or a more serious variant comes along.
My area has a very high rate of unvaxed people, up to 40% (mostly people with anti-authoritarian and trust issues), mostly among the 20 - 40 age groups.
But my closest social connections are all vaxxed by choice.
While I do, obviously, trust the science, I also accept that it is each individuals right to choose - even if that proves costly to some of us. Although I was very worried in the beginning, I'm now calm about it and accept the reality of necessary precautions and living with the risk.
Dan193 · 31-35, M
@hartfire yeah I feel like covid would've been a thing of the past if people were more conscious. Because a lot of people either think covid was a sham and others dont see the illness as life threatening anymore, so they dont take all the precautious. People keep getting inffected from one another, the virus keeps mutating, and we just cant move passed all of this.
This whole experience of the past 3 years, made me realize that even tho I do love the freedom of choice, the goverments need to take the authority to get as many people vaccinated, because most people either dont care about themselves, or others, or are stubbornly against anything that they didnt see with their own eyes or just plain ignorant to the basic sanitary precautions.
This whole experience of the past 3 years, made me realize that even tho I do love the freedom of choice, the goverments need to take the authority to get as many people vaccinated, because most people either dont care about themselves, or others, or are stubbornly against anything that they didnt see with their own eyes or just plain ignorant to the basic sanitary precautions.
@Dan193 Personal freedom of choice versus our responsibility to others. Infectious diseases make this issue more real.
I think what we need are separate hospitals for infectious diseases, built with all the right equipment for quarantine and protection of staff.
I believe governments have an obligation to take over and use top-down authority during times of emergency if a widespread chain of command is the only way to deal with the problem. And then of course relinquish that authority and go back to normal when the emergency is over. An example is what happens during wars and the need to defend one's own country on home soil.
Some problems are better dealt with by local authorities and people at grassroots level, like specific local disasters, because it's the locals who know best exactly what needs doing.
The problem with fake news is that it has given the alt right a means to twist facts to their own advantage. And anyone who wants to believe them does. They deny whatever they feel might be inconvenient, unprofitable or too expensive. They are the high priests of selfishness promoted as a moral right.
I believe they will soon come to see how wrong they were.
The increasing frequency and severity of droughts, wildfires & firestorms, hurricanes, floods, tornadoes, blizzards, rising sea levels and failing crops will turn out to be far more expensive than it ever would have been to stop using fossil fuels by 2000.
It is already too late to stop the warming and the disasters. All we can do now is to try to prevent the warming going so high that we get major extinction events all over the planet. And yet, even while industries and capitalists are starting to change, many governments are still in denial.
I think what we need are separate hospitals for infectious diseases, built with all the right equipment for quarantine and protection of staff.
I believe governments have an obligation to take over and use top-down authority during times of emergency if a widespread chain of command is the only way to deal with the problem. And then of course relinquish that authority and go back to normal when the emergency is over. An example is what happens during wars and the need to defend one's own country on home soil.
Some problems are better dealt with by local authorities and people at grassroots level, like specific local disasters, because it's the locals who know best exactly what needs doing.
The problem with fake news is that it has given the alt right a means to twist facts to their own advantage. And anyone who wants to believe them does. They deny whatever they feel might be inconvenient, unprofitable or too expensive. They are the high priests of selfishness promoted as a moral right.
I believe they will soon come to see how wrong they were.
The increasing frequency and severity of droughts, wildfires & firestorms, hurricanes, floods, tornadoes, blizzards, rising sea levels and failing crops will turn out to be far more expensive than it ever would have been to stop using fossil fuels by 2000.
It is already too late to stop the warming and the disasters. All we can do now is to try to prevent the warming going so high that we get major extinction events all over the planet. And yet, even while industries and capitalists are starting to change, many governments are still in denial.
Dan193 · 31-35, M
@hartfire they have separate hospitals for infectious diseases. Well at least all countries of the civilized world do.
Regarding the example of wars, about staying to defend on home soil, I don't really agree with that anymore. Yeah it makes sense that people should want that, but I disagree that it should be mandated by the government. Everyone should be free to pick if they want to participate in a war started or supported by mad people in power, or not. I just feel like with globalization, people arent really tied to one place no more, we dont need to fight for our corner to the death, because it's our only option.
About global warming and govs not wanting to change. I think the problem is that old people run countries, and they tend to be stuck in their old ways, and think that change is bad or unsafe. Also could be that the older u get, less proactive u become, and slower (decision taking bureaucrates).
I liked Biden tho, even though a lot of people rip on him for being super old, also maybe that's why he even went that way. Not having much time left, so the time he had, he uses it very efficiently and trying to push the change that others in the government arent rushing to do, because they think they still have time, to live and to make changes.
Regarding the example of wars, about staying to defend on home soil, I don't really agree with that anymore. Yeah it makes sense that people should want that, but I disagree that it should be mandated by the government. Everyone should be free to pick if they want to participate in a war started or supported by mad people in power, or not. I just feel like with globalization, people arent really tied to one place no more, we dont need to fight for our corner to the death, because it's our only option.
About global warming and govs not wanting to change. I think the problem is that old people run countries, and they tend to be stuck in their old ways, and think that change is bad or unsafe. Also could be that the older u get, less proactive u become, and slower (decision taking bureaucrates).
I liked Biden tho, even though a lot of people rip on him for being super old, also maybe that's why he even went that way. Not having much time left, so the time he had, he uses it very efficiently and trying to push the change that others in the government arent rushing to do, because they think they still have time, to live and to make changes.