Negationism? I don't care

Media are now calling those who protest against lockdowns 'negationists', the same way they have been for years calling 'racists' or 'fascists' those who oppose multiculturalism.

However, abusing cliche words is not going to work when business close by thousands and people run out of money. The fight against lockdowns is no longer a fight for freedom. It is a fight for bread too.

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Mugin16 · 46-50, M

Lockdowns destroy the economey, that is undisputed. And exactly for that reason, my country's government has refused to decree a second lockdown.

Cierzo · M

@Mugin16 I hope they do not change their mind.
Lockdowns only work if they are very strict and do not care about sounding politically not correct, like the one I described in one of my replies.
China can do it. I would be ready for it if ALL conditions I suggested apply, but how many westerners would take it?

Mugin16 · 46-50, M

@Cierzo Our Foreign Minister who happens to be a doctor stated yesterday that 80-85% of all people who get infected by the virus have either none or only mild symptoms. Thus he concluded the goal must not be to have no infected people but to manage the pandemic in a way to have enough capacity in hospitals to take care of the very small number of infected people who are severe cases.

Elessar · 26-30, M

@Mugin16 [quote]manage the pandemic in a way to have enough capacity in hospitals to take care of the very small number of infected people who are severe cases.[/quote]
But in fact that's why they're likely to enact a new (softer?) lockdown, at least here in Italy. Healthcares are going towards saturations, in some regions the situation is already near-critical.

Mugin16 · 46-50, M

@Elessar Yes, but do we really need a lockdown for that? Wouldn't it be better that old people and people with existing health problems get locked down while everybody else can still go to work, eat out, go to bars and pubs and concerts and football matches and allow cultural and sport activities?

Elessar · 26-30, M

@Mugin16 No, it wouldn't work. Old people have to eat too, and to do so they'll have to interact with younger ones no matter what. Society can't be compartmentalized easily, in practice. Also, the fact it attacks predominantly older folks doesn't mean younger/healthy ones are safe either; 27% of the hospitalized people here are <50 and perfectly healthy before catching covid-19 and now being either with a CPAP or worse, intubated. This with a semi-lockdown, you can imagine the numbers will increase if we pretend everything's over when it actually isn't.

The fact is, in Japan (which is quite densely populated), they averted a lockdown simply by observing three basic rules (masking, distancing, handwashing). Here, instead, we're all paying the cost for [i]freedumbs[/i].