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Are you more afraid of getting covid or the vaccine?

I'm scared of getting both !
I am not vaccinated.. and I'm scared to.
Also covid is getting out of control In our country now 馃嚚馃嚘

This pandemic has been so hard on my mental health 馃槴
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hippyjoe195561-69, M
I live in Alberta and I will not get the vax. In my mind it is not a matter of fear because I don't fear either the disease or the vax. it is much more a matter of principle for me. I won't comply with any government that tries to force me to inject something into my body without solid scientific evidence of its safety and efficacy. I know the vax is not safe. I lost a brother in law to it. In fact almost everyone I know who has had the vax has had some weird effect from it. Death, blood clots, nerve damage, heart damage etc. I know it is not effective. If it were our case count would be approaching zero now since over 70% of the people are vaxed. According to public health theory herd immunity would be reached if 40% of the people were truly vaccinated. That the rates are going higher indicates the vax is potentially harmful and is leading to more infections not less. It is time that the 'governments' come clean and explain their true motives in this since it is very obvious that it is not about health.
Zeusdelight61-69, M
@hippyjoe1955 I am sorry for your personal losses through this time. However, your statistics are absolute crap. Herd immunity cannot possibly occur at 40%. Have you anything that backs that figure up? (Of course, I have asked you for evidence of your claims before and you have never provided it, so I don't expect any evidence this time either.)
SW-User
@hippyjoe1955 Right, let's start again:

[quote]True statement. Not one word of a lie in that. I never knew anyone who had a covid diagnosis before last night. [/quote]

[quote] I know the vax is not safe. I lost a brother in law to it. [/quote]

This confirms that you are a liar. Which one of these statements is true?
SW-User
@Zeusdelight Hippyjoe is also lying. He says that he lost a brother in law to covid, yet also said that he knew no one who had even contracted the virus before his friend did just a couple of nights ago. He's getting caught in his own web of lies to prove some sort of point...
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SW-User
@hippyjoe1955 You lied.

I'm truly sorry if you lost your brother in law to the virus, but you said, yesterday, that you knew no one who had even contracted the virus until your friend did. I think you're changing the narrative to make some point, God-knows what.
hippyjoe195561-69, M
@SW-User Not one word of what I have said about my brother in law and his death is a lie. He got the jab and within three days he was dead from blood clots in his lungs. He had no history of blood clots or other circulator problems. Therefore it is you that is lying because you want to believe the lie. Kind of sad really but if you insist on calling me a liar I will take action.
SW-User
@hippyjoe1955 I'm sure you're telling the truth about your brother in law, and I'm truly sorry.

However, in that case, you lied when you said this about a friend of yours:

[quote]True statement. Not one word of a lie in that. I never knew anyone who had a covid diagnosis before last night. What struck me sadly ironic is he was recently vaxed with his second Pfizer jab. He should have been fully immune if the vax actually worked. Obviously it didn't.[/quote]
hippyjoe195561-69, M
@SW-User Again that is a true statement. The first person I know who has had covid is my friend who went to the hospital thinking he was having a stroke or a bad reaction to his vax.
SW-User
@hippyjoe1955 Ok, I'm gonna back down here as I realise now that your brother in law did NOT have the virus. That's my mistake, and I'm sorry.

However, I stand by my point that vaccines, on the whole, work. Your brother in law was tragically unlucky.
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hippyjoe195561-69, M
@SW-User The vaxes will cause an increase in disease. It is innate in their working. mRNA needs to get inside your cells in order to work. How does it get inside your cells when you cells have natural prevention methods of keeping things like stray RNAs out of themselves? Well you shut that part off with the vax. That opens to body to invasion by any stray virus. Hmmm. Not a good thing. BTW I see the mayor of the neighboring city as suffered neurological damage to his face. What happened? Well he did get the jab.
hippyjoe195561-69, M
@Platinum So you have no idea of how the vaxes work and the potential long term effects? I see reports out now about increasing cancer rates among the vaxed. It would seem the vax shut off the natural immune system and thus allows things like cancer cells to grow like bad weeds.
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@hippyjoe1955 Could you explain how smallpox was eradicated? Also, can we see these reports?
PlatinumM
@hippyjoe1955 spoken by an uneducated and untrained person.you Google too much all around the world this vaccine has been tested by millions and experts have passed it as safe.1100 people have died after having the jab but not because of itand millions have been saved..
hippyjoe195561-69, M
@Platinum Looking in the mirror again? Kind of sad really. The vax is 8 months old. How many years of testing for safety and efficacy can it have gone through. 14000 people in the US alone have died from the vax according to official sources. You really need to get out more. You are so misinformed it is tragic.
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hippyjoe195561-69, M
@Platinum Do you have any evidence from anywhere in the world that shows the vaxes work? I doubt it because it doesn't exist. I was looking at a couple of reports out of Israel today. Israel has a very high vax rate. Reports say that 80% are fully vaxed and many of those have taken the third jab. Their infection rate is 20%. 20% of the population HAS not had the infection. 20%. That has not been seen anywhere where the vax rates are low. In fact the infection rate in non vaxed places is less than 0.5% of the population. Maybe if you got your head out of Fauci's butt once in a while you would see the scam for what it is worth.