I will be blunt. I have Canadian relatives and have lived there before. The US should not want Canadians as citizens. Most are too brainwashed to only think "anything but american". Making some provences into states would only serve to create a democrat majority. Some of the prairie provences are more freedom minded but most of the east and far west is too tied into handouts from Ottawa. Making them US citizens will only feed the beast.
Canadian healthcare is amazing propaganda. I have a grandmother who was refused hip surgery because she was "too old". She lived in a wheelchair for another ten years. An uncle routinely crossed over to Buffalo NY for medical care for his type 1 diabetes that the system wouldnt help with. A cousin had to wait six months to fix a broken tooth. All that you get when you give the government control over your health care, is rich people getting whatever they need and the average dope getting mediocre care.
@Arnoldjrmmer Government run healthcare is sooooooooooo bad that out of 36 developed countries on the globe using it................and us too for Medcare and Medicaid.......it just wouldnt work??? Really????
@MaBalzEsHari i am trying to decipher that message. What i get is, 'everyone is doing it, so it has to be good'
Glad you are cool with a government entity having life or death power over you. We all know governments love us and only want us to be happy. History has always shown that.
@Arnoldjrmmer It's all in the graph below; US citizens pay the most for health care and get the shortest life expectancy. @MaBalzEsHari expected you to be aware.
P.S. Glad you are cool with a business that makes more profit the less healthcare you get having life or death power over you🤣😂
@ElwoodBlues nowhere did i say that businesses should have say over healthcare. Read what is said not what you are wanting to argue. Most life expectancy stats are not comparable as not every county counts thing the same way. There may be a general issue in the US as we over work and over eat but most stats go into infant mortality numbers which have lots of issues when you try to compare them. For instance, a lot of countries dont count premature births toward infant mortality rates as they consider them less than term. The US counts preemies under infant mortality if they dont survive.
You implicitly compared European health care with US health care.
And, you disparaged the motives of the European (government) health care funding. So your implicit comparison invites the same questions about the motives of US health care funders (AKA for-profit insurance companies).
Most life expectancy stats are not comparable
The massive discrepancies shown in the chart cannot be explained away by minor methodological differences.
BTW, the infant mortality chart was included to make clear that infant deaths are NOT included in the life expectancy stats. In other words, we in the US both lose more babies AND live shorter lives at higher health care cost. @Arnoldjrmmer
@ElwoodBlues i imply nothing, i relate my famillial experiences with both systems. I have no love for US insurance companies just as i have no trust in a bureaucracy controlling my healthcare. Its bad enough when an insurance drone overrides doctor choices, but that doesnt make it better when a government drone does the same.
My complaint about the statistics is that it shows a pretty graph that may have some value but i know enough of how standards work to understand that not everything is quantified the same way all over the world. I also know that life expectancy isnt simply based on which healthcare system is used.
The Native population of Canada gets the same healthcare system yet has a lower life expectancy than the average in the US. https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/pub/82-003-x/2019012/article/00001-eng.htm
There are way more factors for life expectancy than if my doctor gets paid privately or gets a govt check.
@Arnoldjrmmer wow, i get a broken tooth, i'm in the next morning. I needed Shoulder surgery, waited 3 months. I have had a cataract removed. It was about a 2 month wait. My mom had Diabetes, she never had an issue getting meds.
Source: https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/life-expectancy-vs-health-expenditure
