MayorOfCrushtown · M
ahhhh, you are American ??? "our country"
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Roundandroundwego · 61-69
@MayorOfCrushtown that was fifty years ago. They're not learning the language - they want bilingual education in Ukrainian. They have huge parties in the parks in other languages, don't even make eye contact with the local population. There's a no English public health clinic with a portrait of a Mexican bull fighter in the lobby. They'll find an English speaker if you need.
MayorOfCrushtown · M
@Roundandroundwego they wont learn the language....... but, their kids will, and their grandkids will.
Roundandroundwego · 61-69
@MayorOfCrushtown maybe, but I've seen previous people doing that, their babies speak English and speak with me! Not anymore. Not these people. I'm not saying it won't happen, but they're not doing it anymore.
@Roundandroundwego I didn't mean to "dismiss" any issue as much as place it into perspective.
If you break down concerns and policies, there's room for negotiation, compromise and even adjusting things when one compromise or solution isn't working as well as it should.
It's a lot harder to promote the general welfare when things are purely us vs them, and there's no common facts.
For example "the right" or at least some on the right are calling for solving the problem of millions of aliens voting illegally. The left, or some on the left, say that didn't happen.
I could go on and on, but huge differences between what the facts and problems actually are, make it hard to address them.
It's easier, for example, and maybe even possible to agree that non-English speakers send their kids to public schools, and talk about whether we should teach English as a second language or not.
If you break down concerns and policies, there's room for negotiation, compromise and even adjusting things when one compromise or solution isn't working as well as it should.
It's a lot harder to promote the general welfare when things are purely us vs them, and there's no common facts.
For example "the right" or at least some on the right are calling for solving the problem of millions of aliens voting illegally. The left, or some on the left, say that didn't happen.
I could go on and on, but huge differences between what the facts and problems actually are, make it hard to address them.
It's easier, for example, and maybe even possible to agree that non-English speakers send their kids to public schools, and talk about whether we should teach English as a second language or not.
Roundandroundwego · 61-69
@MistyCee the issue of welfare definitely is prior to any other issues. Obviously we're not going to have a welfare system. Precarity for the individual is an institution in our country.
Teachers might study the issue and understand what's best for bilingual people and the community - teachers do not use proven methods and never use social goals. That's because conservatives, both parties, dominate and control education.
Teachers might study the issue and understand what's best for bilingual people and the community - teachers do not use proven methods and never use social goals. That's because conservatives, both parties, dominate and control education.
Roundandroundwego · 61-69
@specman no, they'd be illegals. You don't know about this program? At least ten million non citizens, temporary residents who can't leave? Okay. You win. Americans get whatever and yup.
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