You don't have to be a racist to see that the immigrants our wars relocated to our country don't want to assimilate or be Americanized.

@MistyCee they speak their own languages, go to their own houses of worship and don't intermix here, in our town, from Iraq, Afghanistan, Ukraine, Pakistan and Argentina. In extended families. They fought their own country for the US. They're hiding out.
Calling us racist has always been an effective dismissal. The effects don't bother anyone in the blue party, but I certainly do! Dismiss, isolate bully ignore say racist. Done. You're Kamala Harris, now.
But the utter contempt for us is evident, new, and not seen like everything else not sees together don't mind not seeing. See?

@Roundandroundwego Thank you.

I'm not sure how much different that really is than the White Protestant reactions to Irish Catholics, Eastern European Jews, or Chinese and Japanese immigrants in the past, but off the bat, the world is a different place and there's no more American Frontier to escape from or to.

In Trump v. Hawaii (2018), Roberts spoke negatively about Korematsu without overruling it, but its a different Court now, and we now have a vibrant shadow docket which could breathe new life into Korematsu pretty quickly and easily.

Personally, I'd be horrified, and I'm hoping that birthright citizenship gets to the Court before camps, national security and the enemy within, because that would be harder to swallow for conventional Constitutional analysis. But not that much harder than Presidential Immunity.

@MistyCee immigrants come for lots of different reasons and in different size groups. The people who live in a country before they arrive are not always doing well enough to assimilate anyone, but typically Americans have done very well. That's not true now, here, and from what I hear, That's also no longer true true across France, the UK and the Netherlands - the people came in big groups, we see them sticking with each other, the Christian Dems in Holland, the PS in France and the Democrats in the USA call people racist for talking about it.

@Roundandroundwego I really can't speak for other countries, but I expect it wasnt all that different with Britons, Anglo-Saxons and Vikings.

In the US, in the city where I live we still have an Irish Channel (in which few Irish people still live), we have Chinatowns in lots of places, and ethnic neighborhoods like the Upper East Side, Little Italy, Harlem, etc, are pretty clear evidence that waves of immigrants tend to huddle together, at least for a generation or so.

The racist tag/smear, whatever you want to call it, is, I think, distracting, because what makes "the other" can be religion or, language, and isn't just about race or skin color.

How is it any different now? I'm not saying it's not, but while history doesn't necessarily repeat itself, there are patterns that repeat.

I think that a lot of the MAGA movement is about that, yearning for the good old days, when women and blacks knew their place or could be put there by force, the post War US economy was soaring, schools were segregated, there was a GI Bill, and of course, we all had an enemy to unite us in the Communist countries.

@MistyCee the "left" dismissed the issue long ago. Now you have, again! And you will dismiss us all.

@Roundandroundwego I didn't mean to "dismiss" any issue as much as place it into perspective.

If you break down concerns and policies, there's room for negotiation, compromise and even adjusting things when one compromise or solution isn't working as well as it should.

It's a lot harder to promote the general welfare when things are purely us vs them, and there's no common facts.

For example "the right" or at least some on the right are calling for solving the problem of millions of aliens voting illegally. The left, or some on the left, say that didn't happen.

I could go on and on, but huge differences between what the facts and problems actually are, make it hard to address them.

It's easier, for example, and maybe even possible to agree that non-English speakers send their kids to public schools, and talk about whether we should teach English as a second language or not.

@MistyCee the issue of welfare definitely is prior to any other issues. Obviously we're not going to have a welfare system. Precarity for the individual is an institution in our country.
Teachers might study the issue and understand what's best for bilingual people and the community - teachers do not use proven methods and never use social goals. That's because conservatives, both parties, dominate and control education.