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If you don't respect the right to self-determination of other countries, you should shut up about illegal immigrants, including criminals.

Bombing or contributing to war in any way or shape gives others the right to ignore your laws as well and contribute to your instability. It is a fitting consequence. A tit for tat.

Especially criminals.

Decent people should return home to re-build. You're not worth their efforts..
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I do feel like every country that brings war to another should feel the consequences at home. Nobody should be able to sleep soundly in their beds while their country brings devastation. Too often the West in particular has had the luxury of being able to watch our wars on TV.
Miram · 31-35, F
@ostfuidctyvm

But it is so much to deal with and they can't keep up 😢 Life is too hard to care about how one's own government is creating injustice elsewhere.

Can't count the many times people actually thought saying this to someone like me is in any way appropriate.

It is as if I am expected to provide further comfort and reassurance to someone who is already benefiting from those in underprivileged circumstances, whether we realise it or not. Circumstances that I have lived through myself.

I get that things become overwhelming and everyone needs a break. But it would be a lie to think even a small segment of most populations are doing what they should to stop wars, including speaking up.

Humans are by large outrageous.
BohoBabe · M
It is pretty ironic that Trump was talking about doing an ethnic cleansing of Gaza, thus forcing two million people to become immigrants, all while demonizing immigrants constantly.
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Miram · 31-35, F
@StygianKohlrabi


No, threatening Algeria is rational and stable.


Let me be very clear here. Your government along with others spread chaos across the entire world. It is not just Iran which is being targeted.



And this itself proves their agendas and incredibility. They don't stop warmongering and creating wars.

Iranians aren't warmongering against algeria. Not even a single iranian, while there are Israelis who are doing it.


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Now back to your very narrow discourse.

Israel is run by zealots too, so?

Bombing civilians to "save" them from their government is a story not even a five-year-old would believe.

Not a single person in Iran wants to be bombed, and I know Iranians. Just like Israelis don't want to be bombed. Surprise, I guess. The fact that we even have to say,
"People don’t want to be bombed,” shows how far gone these sorts of conversations are.

F**#€k the Israeli government that made that decision to start war with yet another country, and f**€€k any Americans who support it.

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Just like the US and its allies warmongered across Africa and the Middle East for decades under the fake banner of “democracy.” These are the same tired lies your gov has repeated for generations. And people like me are sick of this crap.

You deserve criminals on your soil as long as you support killing civilians elsewhere. It is a fitting consequence. I am likely to no longer oppose criminals illegally immigrating to your country. Might as well support it. Unless you stop warmongering, it is fitting.

Extremism VS extremism.

Perhaps one is to hope more and more swarm in, encourage governments to free criminals from their jails at the borders. Go right in!! If you don't respect international laws, why should others? If you think nuking developing countries is okay for one reason or another, we also got plenty of reasons to treat your countries as enemies.


Do I want extremist governments to have nuclear weapons? Of course not, that includes the US and Israel. And yet they do.

Iran doesn’t owe respect to a nuclear treaty that the U.S. and Israel have already violated and ignored. if you break the rules, others will not play fair.

It wouldn't be surprising to hope more countries,including in Africa, start their own nuclear programs to defend themselves from your endless wars and double standards.

Why not even side with China and Nk for technological advancements in exchange of resources? While they have no ethical standards either, they haven't caused military destruction as much as the US , Europe and Israel...

Not knowing about other countries doesn’t excuse your support for destruction. You’re choosing to be a complicit. And if I am to keep going down this path, so will I in response to warmongers.

I am not a pacifist who would get bombed by Israeli government or any other gov..and reach to the UN for justice. Neither will be my loved ones.

So I repeat, now that some Israelis think it's fitting to warmonger even against Algeria, thousands km away, I will not stay silent and I am willing to do whatever it takes to protect my loved ones in North Africa.

Down with the ikhraeli government and supporters of war whether in the US or Israel.
StygianKohlrabi · 46-50, M
@Miram
No, threatening Algeria is rational and stable.

Like I have said I don't support that and haven't heard anything. AFAIK even the current government only wants to destroy terror cells, terrorist groups, and governments not non hostile or allies. I don't agree with their way of waging war either and think they're probably inept and overly aggressive but they did have to do something in response to Iranian aggression.

Iranians aren't warmongering against algeria. Not even a single iranian, while there are Israelis who are doing it.


I don't support everything Israel does. There are definitely difficult people there.


Israel is run by zealots too, so?

This is the case, in part, although the opportunity for dissent is possible in Israel. The religious right has risen but it is balanced out by other factions.

F**#€k the Israeli government that made that decision to start war with yet another country, and f**€€k any Americans who support it.

I don't cheer on a war. I just said Israeli government isn't playing nice and won't stop pursuing a broad scale war.

I DON'T WANT TO GET INVOLVED AND SPEAK FOR MY COUNTRYMEN TOO.


You deserve criminals on your soil as long as you support killing civilians elsewhere.

Well I understand your sentiment that we deserve the harm we wish onto your people. As I live here and I was born proud to be an American, I would hope that we work towards a solution to crime and even yes, that which is committed by illegal immigrants.

There is a lot to unpack in your statement but I think this about covers it. I honestly thought you were more moderate than this.
Miram · 31-35, F
@StygianKohlrabi

You say you don’t warmonger, I’ve just read your activity 🙄

You back escalations against civilians, then hide behind “I don’t support everything” as a cover.

Don’t twist my words or tone-police me. When a nuclear-backed apartheid state threatens my country, fury is survival. I don’t owe you calm while my people are targeted again and again.

If any other country said what Israel or its influencers say about Algeria, you’d call it terrorism. But when it’s Israel, it becomes “rational,” “strategic,” “too complicated to judge.” "I don't know enough".

That’s not neutrality, that’s complicity. You are a complicit who uses words like "difficult people" to downplay actual terrorist threats.

You claim the religious right in Israel is “balanced.” Balanced by who? Huh? Israel’s government is dominated by extremists, and it’s not a real democracy when arab israeli dissent is punished with bullets and prison, and Jewish dissent is smeared and silenced and marginalized.

The extremists are the majority in the government. Dissent exists, sure, but power belongs to fanatics just like in Iran.

I fought Islamist extremism in my own lands. I built peace in my home. As an Imazighan, As Kabylian, as a woman, as a jew, as touareg..The freedom I enjoy is my own hard work. Do you think I will let anyone take that from me? Ha. Me and people like me established this peace only we get to decide the path of this country. Only algerians decide that.

I won’t let anyone drag war to my people under the excuse of “fighting terror.” You contributed to creating Islamists plenty of times.

I don't know why you bother pretending to care about Iranian women and other minorities like me. You only bring them up when it's time to bomb someone. This sudden care doesn't exist anywhere else on the website. You’re silent on Saudi, silent on Gaza, silent on Palestinian women brutalized and detained and sexually assaulted...even justify that.... You don’t care about our rights as women, just your narrative. That's why it is so selective.

You and the Islamists you claim to oppose. Honestly two sides of the same sickness.

So, I don't really care if you don't think I am moderate for speaking up against Israelis trying to invade my country. I don't think you are moderate either while you constantly justify the acts of terrorists just because they don't scream Alloho snackbare while killing innocent people.

-F%$k israelis threatening Algeria, Fu$#k warmongers and supporters from your country too.

 
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