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Definition of Genocide

The term "genocide" was coined by Polish lawyer Raphael Lemkin after World War Two. The text of the Genocide Convention adopted by the U.N. defines it as "intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial, or religious group, as such" through five acts, all of which must be present.

1. Killing members of the group
2. Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group
3. Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part
4. Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group
5. Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group

At the insistence of the USSR, political and class groups were excluded, as the Soviets didn't want the perpetrators of the Great Terror or the Holodomor to be accused of genocide. This also prevented the "killing fields" of the Khmer Rouge in Cambodia from being included.

It's important to use the term as defined, and not apply it as a pejorative to wars that people may personally disapprove of.
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Bumbles · 56-60, M
Israel seems really bad at committing genocide.
trollslayer · 46-50, M
@Bumbles depends on what definition you use. They were pretty effective in 1948.
Bumbles · 56-60, M
@trollslayer The only one, and they were even worse at it in 1948.
trollslayer · 46-50, M
@Bumbles idk, they forced 700,000 palestinians from their homes.
Bumbles · 56-60, M
@trollslayer Oppose it all you like, it’s still not genocide.
trollslayer · 46-50, M
@Bumbles i don’t necessarily disagree, the difference being did israel just want to exile palestinians, or exile them to the point that they cease to exist as a group. I tend to believe the former, but people do argue the latter.
Bumbles · 56-60, M
@trollslayer They were Arabs then, the term Palestinians for a people develops after. Jews…always been there and identified as such. Israel was voted into existence by the UN and then Arabs attacked.

The term “genocide” applied to Israel is propaganda leftist horseshit.
trollslayer · 46-50, M
@Bumbles well, “from the river to the sea” is claimed to be a call to genocide by palestinians. But israel was first to use that phrase.
Bumbles · 56-60, M
@trollslayer It’s a claim to end Israel. I suppose the Jews should just let it happen?
trollslayer · 46-50, M
@Bumbles originally it was a claim to end arab settlements in the area.
trollslayer · 46-50, M
@Bumbles nope. I am 100% for israel protecting its people and land.
Bumbles · 56-60, M
@trollslayer We’ll, I can’t say I know about that, but it’s not how it’s presently used. And if it was wrong then it’s wrong now.
trollslayer · 46-50, M
@Bumbles and my hope is that both sides wind up with a place they can call “home” that is respected by both.