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What if George Floyd was White?

What do you think the reaction would have been if there was a White male who had been killed in the same way Floyd was? Would there have been outrage, or not?

It seems to me that the answer is probably not, because all that really matters are exaggerated or non-existent issues around race.

I don't particularly favor the police, and that is because they can be horrible to all people, especially poor people who have limited means of fighting back. Race, you'll find, is mostly irrelevant when you consider that people who commit crime or who are suspected of committing crime can all be subject to unfair treatment upon being caught and arrested. If you haven't done a nice thing, some people would say that you don't deserve nice treatment.

Regardless of whether you are Black or White, if you resist arrest or create unnecessary problems for yourself when arrested, you are asking for trouble. Even Tasers, which the police use to subdue, can cause a person's heart to stop.

Note: I appreciate that this "trouble" shouldn't have involved a knee being pressed down on you until you stopped breathing, but I am arguing that this *could* have happened to a White man had he behaved in the same way.

The issue is that there would not have been the same outraged response. Police wouldn't have been vilified, riots wouldn't have been had, businesses wouldn't have been vandalized, and people likely wouldn't have cared.

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DeluxedEdition · 26-30, F

If he was white no one would have cared about his death. More white males are killed by police than any other statistic. And
nobody bats an eye 🤷‍♀️

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windinhishair · 61-69, M

@DeluxedEdition More white males are killed than black males by police. But blacks make up a much smaller portion of the population. When the RATE of killing is examined, blacks are more likely to be killed:

Black 41 deaths per million people 2015 to September 2022
Hispanic 29 deaths
White 16 deaths

So blacks are 2.5 times more likely to die than whites by police hands.

DeluxedEdition · 26-30, F

@windinhishair the media covers African Americans being killed because it garners more attention from the public. The media is trying to make a profit.

windinhishair · 61-69, M

@DeluxedEdition The media covers African Americans being killed because the disparity in killings between white and non-white illustrates racist intent. Nothing more or less.

DeluxedEdition · 26-30, F

@windinhishair I respect your opinion but I disagree

windinhishair · 61-69, M

@DeluxedEdition Does it bother you at all that if you are non-white you are more likely to be killed by police than if you are white?

DeluxedEdition · 26-30, F

@windinhishair you’re more likely to be killed if you’re white. More white Americans specifically males are killed by police.

windinhishair · 61-69, M

@DeluxedEdition No you aren't. I just showed you the statistics. More white Americans are killed, but they are a much larger percentage of the population. If you take one white man and one black man, the black man is 2.5 times more likely to die than the white man by police shooting. That's just a fact. Does that bother you at all?

DeluxedEdition · 26-30, F

@windinhishair okay 👍

windinhishair · 61-69, M

@DeluxedEdition So that fact doesn't trouble you?

DeluxedEdition · 26-30, F

@windinhishair very troublesome for white people because not only are we being killed more but it’s not even reported subtly suggesting we don’t matter

windinhishair · 61-69, M

@DeluxedEdition Got it. So black people are significantly more likely to be killed, and your sole concern is for white people. That's a microcosm of the whole issue right there.

Justenjoyit · 61-69, M

@windinhishair Blacks commit 60% of ALL violent crime — but only 14% of the population

windinhishair · 61-69, M

@Justenjoyit Provide your sourced data for your claim.

Justenjoyit · 61-69, M

@windinhishair Just google the US then Google crime in London

windinhishair · 61-69, M

@Justenjoyit I did. FBI data does not support your claim. That's why I would like to see your source.

Also, crime in London says nothing about crime in the US and any racial disparity.

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Justenjoyit · 61-69, M

@windinhishair https://www.london.gov.uk/press-releases/assembly/commission-on-knife-crime-in-black-community
I will look for the other link I found about the US. Please Google better this is wasting my time

windinhishair · 61-69, M

@Justenjoyit You are wasting my time with articles on crime in London, which you might not realize is not located in the United States, and has nothing to do with crime in the US.

Justenjoyit · 61-69, M

@windinhishair Go and Google about the US I just told you I am going to look I read it and just copied and paste so have patience please or look yourself lazy boy

windinhishair · 61-69, M

@Justenjoyit I already did, and the actual FBI data does not support your bogus claim. The lazy racist is you.

Justenjoyit · 61-69, M

@windinhishair https://aalbc.com/tc/topic/9578-blacks-commit-60-of-all-violent-crime-%E2%80%94-but-only-14-of-the-population/

Justenjoyit · 61-69, M

@windinhishair Please dont call me a racist, you have now drawn the line with me
I think you have an issue with yourself, you should not push that on others. I am just placing facts

windinhishair · 61-69, M

@Justenjoyit This is it? Is "Greg" the authoritative source on all US crime statistics? And because "Greg" made a post on July 10, this makes it true? Sorry, but I'll take actual crime statistics that do not support this claim.

windinhishair · 61-69, M

@Justenjoyit Nothing about "Greg" screams factual. You should post actual facts based on data, not someone's opinion or interpretation based on who knows what.

Justenjoyit · 61-69, M

@windinhishair I did not read down when I saw that so I apologise but you should not just lash out and call people a racist

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