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I Am A Real Werewolf

This is to everyone.

Judging groups is lazy, ignorant, and can lead to the deaths of many innocent people. Only individuals can be judged, and they must be judged ba<x>sed on their actions. For humans, hating or fearing people who are different is understandable to an extent. It is natural for all living beings to be initially cautious of something it does not understand. This is an act of self-preservation; keeping your distance until you can judge whether or not something is a threat. Throughout human history, however, judging groups has caused countless problems and countless deaths for no good reason. Judging an individual that seems suspicious is being cautious, but judging a man as suspicious because he is black is racist as well as an unjustifiable act of laziness. To be afraid of things you do not understand is, again, understandable, but there is no reason why you cannot judge those things individually. If you fear, for example, a non-human, do not rely on the most-likely false information you may know about their group as a whole, whatever that group may be. Instead, judge them individually ba<x>sed on what they do. Assuming you know someone before you have even met them is how innocent people get killed; torn from life by ignorant people who did not take the time to use their eyes and observe the truth.

To non-humans: no crusade of vengeance against humans is justified because it generalizes humans as a group instead of judging them individually. By doing this, you place a murderer in the same category as a newborn child; a greedy politician in the same category as a college student. Although you may not think of it this way, when you speak of hatred or distaste for “humans”, that is exactly what you are doing. You are expressing your insecurities by turning all of humanity into an evil entity that you can direct your frustrations toward and seek some sort of catharsis, in some cases by thinking of the slaughter of innocent people. Also, no crusade of equality begins with dividing “us” from “them”. Equality is not seeking rights for non-humans only to claim that humans are inferior. That is doing to “them” what you complain they have done to “us”. By seeking vengeance or seeking dominance, you are no better than whatever false image of darkness you conjure up to justify your cause. You are lying to yourself; convincing people that, somehow, murder makes sense because it was done to your kind in the past. And where are those people now? Those people that you blame for the state of those like you, where are they? Are they alive? Dead? Do you even know, or are you just using the word “humans” because it makes you feel better to blame a group than to seek out the ones who hurt you or hurt people like you? Do you hate all human children, or just the adults? What about the seniors? What is the age-range, what is the category, what are the boundaries of your hatred? Have you even thought this through, or do you just hate indiscriminately because it is easier? Know that, no matter what you do or how you try to justify your actions, when you wage war on “humans”, you wage war on everyone; people with families as much as people without them, the innocent and the guilty without distinction. Whatever reason or principle you fight for, it does not take away from the fact that you seek to dominate or kill a rapist as much as the raped when you point a finger at “humans”.

To everyone: some of the most horrid events in history were carried by the creation of divisions; “us” versus “them”, “good” versus “evil”. We have a tendency to see differences between people, but we categorize in terms of quality instead of in terms of equal difference. There are two ways to categorize things as different: horizontally and vertically. When we see two trees in a park, we can point out the differences. Perhaps one is bigger than the other and one has different colored or differently-shaped leaves. That these differences exist is a fact. However, which tree is “better” is an opinionated judgment not ba<x>sed on fact but on personal taste. One person could cay that the bigger tree is better, simply because it is bigger. Another person could say that the smaller one is better because it does not resist wind as much and is less likely to fall over. Or, perhaps, the larger one is growing close to some power lines and must be cut back. This is an example of a unique situation; a point at which we must judge individually, not ba<x>sed on all big or small trees everywhere, but whether or not being bigger is good for a tree when it is close to power lines and could end up being cut back. The purpose of this example is to both express the importance of individual situations as well as point out the arbitrary nature of choosing what is “better”. We do not wage wars about what type of music is “better”, but that is because we recognize that different people like different kinds of music. Whether or not a song is loud, quiet, mostly instrumental, or mostly vocal are all things we can judge ba<x>sed on facts. Whether or not the song is “good” is nothing more than an opinion; a value-ba<x>sed judgment that has no factual basis. This vertical categorization; saying that one thing is “better” or more important than another. Horizontal categorization, on the other hand, is the recognition or difference without value-ba<x>sed judgments. We can see that two trees or two songs are different and we accept that difference. Whether or not we like them is our opinion, not something to justify war or murder. If you do not like something, then do not come into contact with it. If you do like something, then like it. Everyone is different. The level or degree of difference between two people may vary, but it is not a matter of who or what is better than someone or something else. Instead, it is a matter of accepting that we are all different to some extent and that value placed on those differences, be it good or bad, has no factual grounds. Any distinctions of “superiority” and “inferiority” are invented within the realm of our personal opinions; perspectives that have no more substance or importance than what color of shirt you prefer to wear or what kind of food you like to eat. I say this to all people, all beings, because there is no excuse for childish pursuits of vengeance or mindless campaigns of “purification” when they are all ba<x>sed on personal opinion, not on anything logical or factual. To hate people you do not know, to judge entire groups without thought, is to incite both pointless conflict and needless murder. We will always fight because we are living beings, and the desire to survive or to satisfy certain desires may drive us to cause harm. All I ask here is that no one start a war that will achieve absolutely nothing, only forcing everyone back into a loop of idiotic violence that leaves masses of innocent bodies in its wake. You can be remembered as people who sought progress and cooperation or as people without logical mind who kill because you are too insecure to deal with your own inner conflicts. You can fight or you can live the life you have. We are not guaranteed tomorrow, so let us live today.
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HuntLeader1990
What... The Hell... was this even about?
Drachona · 31-35, M
This is towards humans and non-humans concerning both the acceptance of non-humans, those that want to dominate or harm humans, and those humans who fear or hate non-human creatures. If you do not understand it, then it is not for you.
HuntLeader1990
My point was... It was a waste of a post... A valiant attempt at looking intelligent and goodhearted, but all in all, overly wordy and rambling.

1. Humans will never accept "non-humans". Humans don't even believe in supes, and those of us that know they exist don't much care about acceptance or distrust, because those are useless concepts in the supernatural world.

2. Domination of humans is the never a goal of supes, and those one or two that seek that goal have nothing to do with werewolves... -Real- werewolves have never sought the "domination" of humans.

3. The supes that harm humans can't be stopped from doing so. They can't just DECIDE to be good. They harm humans because it is their nature, and it is usually for food. When it comes to them, be they any species, it's kill or be killed. That will never change.

4. All humans innately fear the supernatural. It's been that way since the beginning when supes stalked the shadows and early man hid in caves, and will be that way until the End of Days. And they have perfect reason to... Humans and the supernatural have ALWAYS been at odds... Ever since mankind evolved, and the supernatural world realized man would someday inherit the Earth, they've been at eachothers' throats. And those that hate supes? I'm guessing you mean the cliche image of hunters. Stop watching so much TV.

All in all, your ideas are sweet and all, but they are pointless. You are equating pacifist values to a world which has never and will never be pacifistic.
Gladez
For the love of JAYZIS would you ever fuck up your shite. You are soooo BORING and repetitive
HuntLeader1990
"and those of us that know they exist don't much care about acceptance or distrust"... That was the whole point of that statement
HuntLeader1990
Ugh... And here I thought I was rid of you...
Gladez
you never had me to be rid of me.
Drachona · 31-35, M
You speak to me of "sounding intelligent", meanwhile you talk as though you are unquestioningly more intelligent than I am. Firstly, how can you honestly look at what things are typically said on this experience and then zero-in on my post as "a waste"? You do not have to agree with me, but at least I am trying to provide something of substance that took actual thought and time to produce, not Yahoo Answers quality responses as some others tend to give.

Secondly, your point that humans will never accept and do not believe in "supes", as you call them, is both false and unsupportable. There are many who believe in the supernatural. Indeed, history is a record of the growing acceptance of supernatural subjects, although it is slight. The things we can freely say on the internet now or even in common conversation could have landed us in a psychiatric hospital only so long ago. Things change, and that is an undeniable fact. To assume that something will never happen or that something will never change is not only unjustifiably pessimistic, but unknowable. Unless you can see the future, how could you know? Even if you knew, would not a positive perspective increase the chances of it happening?

Thirdly, it does not matter who wants to dominate or kill humans. What matters is that they understand the lack of logic behind doing so out of some spirit of vengeance for what has happened in the past. There are a lot of young non-humans that are confused and angry. They seek something to blame, and humanity is a prime target. Part of the point of this is to explain why that makes no sense.

Fourthly, you speak of such people that harm humans as unchangeably bad. How limited is that thinking? Do you know anyone that is purely "good" or purely "bad"? I am not proposing a foolish, overly-optimistic view of their nature, just being realistic. Branding someone or a group of people as "bad" without and shred of "goodness" in them is the kind of thinking that justifies war. Adolf Hitler, one who is almost always associated with the worst kind of people in society, wanted to be an art student. Focusing on dichotomies and ignoring the middle ground is foolish.

Lastly, as I said, the level of acceptance for the supernatural has changed significantly throughout time. People fear what they have not yet judged as a potential threat; it is a defense mechanism. Clearly, there are people who can get past their unjustified fears and accept new ideas. Those kind of people can be seen even here in significant numbers. Also, I do not just speak of hunters. I speak of anyone who, upon realizing that such beings exist, would react violently. The only reason so many hide is because of a fear of how humans may react. And even if acceptance is not important to you, hiding promotes psychological imbalance. The reason why you can hardly tell the delusional humans from the confused non-humans on sites like this is because there is no culture for non-humans to be a part of. There is no standard or image to aspire to, and there is no way of getting constant, accurate knowledge about what they are. This is not about what is important for you or for any of us as individuals. It is about what is important for the survival of our kinds. If you feel that this is pointless, then you are blind to what can be seen even in this experience, just one click away. I respect your opinion, as I am simply presenting mine. However, do not assume that you know me enough to judge my intelligence or my perspectives. Again, you may not care about what I have to say, but unlike most people here, I am trying to do something meaningful. I do not complain about the decline of this experience or what "posers" are saying. I get my hands dirty and deal with it. I answer questions and give advice. I am making a difference, however grand or small, and it is because I recognize the clear and obvious problems at hand. You do not have to agree with me, but do not confront me when I am actually doing something useful.
Drachona · 31-35, M
If you dislike my writing, then do not bother to read it. What I want to say cannot be summed up in two sentences. Complex concepts and arguments can hardly ever be so concise.
Drachona · 31-35, M
I do know and believe it. The existence of my group, the HSW, is proof of that.
HuntLeader1990
I point out your post was a waste of time simply because you posted it, and common sense dicatated it would be shrugged off and would mean nothing in the long run. This post was basically a long drawn out example of the "stop doing this" style, same as the "I hate trolls! Werewolves are real!" posts... And yes, it had "substance", and as I said was a valiant attempt, but wasted valor is just the same as wasted time.
Actually, I CLEARLY pointed out that there are normal people who believe in the supernatural. BUT... To the general public, it is STILL just nonsense. And if you went around in public, not hidden behind EP, you'd still get locked in a psych ward, as claims of lycanthropy is an accepted form of insanity.
This is life, though. This isn't "The Secret". Positive thinking won't change the universe. It's basic fact that humans and supes will always be at odds... That's how our earliest ancestors became the first hunters, that's how beings once known as gods became demons and monsters, and that's how the supernatural will retain it's hidden value or be wiped out. It's been seen in history time and time again.
Those that go around, kids, claiming to hate humans and want to kill all of them... Sorry to tell you, 99.9% are fakes. They're just doing it for attention. They aren't even werewolves, shifters, vamps, or any of the sort. Just angry kids with a need to hate someone. Only demons really seek the destruction of mankind, and they don't NEED logic behind it. It's what they are.
Yes, I do know things that are purely bad. Demons. There is NO good in them. And no, they can't be rehabilitated. You can't change what something is. And if a supe goes rabid and starts killing, that's it. They're gone. Once they're rabid, they stay rabid until someone puts them down. That's the world. That's how it works. Sorry that it isn't sweet or fun.
How does being an art student make Adolf Hitler a good guy? Art isn't good... Art is just art. It's expression. Expression can be good or bad. And Hitler... Dude wasn't even evil. He was just an ignorant egomaniac with fantasies of world domination...
Actually, that last part begins with a lack of knowledge of the history of the supernatural. Supes are in hiding because there WAS a time they were known to the public. It led to near mass extinction of the entire supernatural populace, and so they ALL went into hiding. And waited, until the world saw them as fiction. The general acceptation now for the supernatural isn't even real. Pop culture has made the supernatural glamorous, so now you have "Spiritual Therianism", the "Vamp Scene", and Wicca causing people to suddenly claim how the supernatural is beautiful and part of their life, but what these people are celebrating isn't the real thing, nor is the supernatural even part of their life. If these people saw the REAL supernatural, they'd freak and run or go for the pitchfork just like they always have. It's just nature.
And actually, there IS culture. It's easy to tell between the confused and the liars for the real ones because the confused have facts, are honest, and are often simply confused over basic things that wouldn't be brought up. Like all the kids who come on here asking "Am I a werewolf?" None of them are. It's not a state of confusion, it's desire for a feeling of being special.
And sorry to say it, but I'm a hunter. If the survival of most supes was a priority of mine, I wouldn't be who I am. And I wasn't judging your intelligence, simply pointing out the flaws in your thinking process. You posted this apparently honestly believing it would change something. That presents a flaw and a hope for a grander reception than pacifism will ever receive.
HuntLeader1990
Thing is, you're a kid, and your view of the world is based on supernatural encounters behind a keyboard. If you had real-life experience, even supes like lycanthropes and vamps can tell you, it's not a nice world. And most supes aren't friendly.
Drachona · 31-35, M
Again, you assume you understand me. I have experienced more than you know, which does not have to be much because you do not know me. I never claimed that the world was "nice", but pissing and moaning about it solves nothing. Seeking change, if not for your life then for the lives of current and future children, is what makes things happen. I do not want to hear you speak down to me as though you know enough about me to judge the whole of my being. I have not done this to you, and so I have acted less foolishly and more maturely than you have toward me.
HuntLeader1990
I actually agree, pissing and moaning about it does nothing whatsoever. But neither does attempting a pacifist outlook. To create change, one has to fight for it. And to change something that has existed since prehistoric times is like trying to change the very laws of nature themselves... It's simply a foolish endeavor that will lead to misery.
And just so ya know, this isn't me talking down to you. This is actually me simply talking. If I was going to talk down to you, I'd be very rude, very forceful, and there would be a lot of insults.
Drachona · 31-35, M
Well, firstly, you contradicted yourself quite obviously: "Humans will never accept "non-humans". Humans don't even believe in supes" versus "Actually, I CLEARLY pointed out that there are normal people who believe in the supernatural." unless I am misunderstanding, which simply means you need to be clearer. Secondly, I can see how you think and I mean this in seriousness, not in an attempt to be insulting: you are foolish and ignorant. You speak to me as though I know little, but then claim you are not insulting my intelligence. And yes, I am aware of demons. You, however, were not specific in who you were referring to in terms of those that kill humans. I have been told before of beings that are composed entirely of hatred and "evil". I do not doubt their existence because I have no reason or evidence to do so. However, your general comment suggested that there are people, like you or I, that are unchangeable. This is simply incorrect; not an optimistic view, but simple fact. To assume otherwise is to condemn a person for eternity as "good" or "bad" regardless of whether or not their future actions fit the mold of either. And no, art does not make one "good". But to judge Hitler based solely on the Holocaust is to be either ignorant to the whole picture or stupid. And yes, I do know that there was a time when we were accepted. You were the one who implied that "Humans and the supernatural have ALWAYS been at odds". Lastly, and most importantly, I am not doing this for what you call the "99.9%". I am doing this for the .1% that are real. I was once lost and confused. You know why? Because no one was there to teach me. No one told me where to go or what to do when I was younger. I found my own information. I was only lucky to find a teacher who helped me along. It is because of those kinds of people that I am where I am. I am trying to help, and I have done so for a number of people here. Even those who are horridly misguided, at the very least, walk away with more accurate information than what they had before. I am trying to do something, not just accepting the universe as unchangeable and remaining stagnant. You have your beliefs, opinions, and philosophy, and I have mine. I can respect that difference. Because of that, I will end this conversation. I see your perspective, but simply disagree. Also, I have found it difficult to remain calm in the midst of your condescension, be it intentional or not. However, as I said, I will end this conversation as it clearly has nothing to gain. You have spoken and so have I. All that can be done is for us to mull over each others' points or simply leave the situation where it lies and walk away.
HuntLeader1990
The phrase "you're a kid" can have varying meanings, not simply determined by age, but by experience as well.
Drachona · 31-35, M
Which is why it is insulting and it is talking downward, even if it is not what you would consider as such. You are assuming my level of experience when you cannot even tell me my full name. Even if you sought everything I have ever said anywhere on the internet, you could not possibly know me enough to judge my level of experience. In fact, your statement about my very lack of it is inherently problematic. You could not know what I have done beyond the keyboard if your only exposure to me is through the computer. And lastly, I understand that you feel fighting is the solution. I respect your opinion, but disagree. Fighting is a solution, but not the only solution and certainly not the most desirable. To accept that conflict is inevitable is to let it happen. Why would anyone ever try to stop a war instead of just let it happen? Even the goal of warfare is counter to the focus of just fighting. A true war is fought to be ended as quickly as possible, to ensure victory. You see my view as unrealistic and pacifistic. That is why I feel you are blind. I am not, nor have I ever been, a pacifist. I just choose when to fight if I have to. If conflict can be prevented, and it always can be, then I try to stop it. That perspective takes experience to develop; too many times of rushing in and thinking that fighting is the only solution until you realize that encouraging bloodshed, surprisingly, encourages bloodshed. People die, if not in greater number than faster, than would be the case if you had tried to prevent even a seemingly unstoppable conflict. This is my philosophy, not a claim at facts. However, as I said, experience develops perspective. So, before you judge me to any extent, consider which of us seems to be proposing a wiser solution: the one who fights, or the one who tries not to.
Tim95
No. I also see this post as a waste.
lordvolkhark
Asking me?
Drachona · 31-35, M
So then, I suppose that the bulk of posts here are useful and seeking to help others? To look at something that actually uses time and effort for a good purpose and to call it a waste of time solely because you do not agree with it is embarrassing. Even more so, note that I mention the many pointless posts on this experience, and yet I do not go to them and call them "a waste". So then, how is your comment valuable, if you have wasted time on "a waste" of a post?
HuntLeader1990
Actually, I constantly call most of the posts on here a waste. Because 90% of them are.
Drachona · 31-35, M
It seems a more reasonable argument that conversing with you is a waste of time. You put minimal effort into your response, so I see no reason to put much effort in mine. Many things said here, although foolish and misguided, at least have in them the potential for progress; for the person speaking to learn and grow. People like you, however, whose breath is wasted critiquing those who are actually trying to help or whine about the status quo instead of change it, only add to the many bits of proof which show that, although we call ourselves "advanced", we have not come very far.
HuntLeader1990
How are you trying to help exactly? By posting this on a forum? What good does that do? Stop thinking like an eleven year old and think like an adult. The only way to change the world is to get off your ass and go do it. Posting this won't change anything, it just shows you have a hippy mentality. That's the WHOLE point of all of this.
Drachona · 31-35, M
If that is the case, then it begs the question of why you are here. More importantly, where would I go? What exactly do you suggest, since you seem to be to wise and experienced? I have a life. I cannot abort my Masters to out myself as a werewolf and seek acceptance for my kind. For now, this is what I can do and, regardless of your personal opinion, it does help. Feel free to argue that with me, considering you could not possibly know who I have interacted with. Here, I can hide my birth name, because to shout it out would be socially suicidal. Even more so, where do you think a lot of the people are who need help? I used the internet when I was younger because it was, and still is, a spring of information. It may not always be true or useful information, but what else would a lost person trying to understand themselves do? Your arrogance is irritating, and your ignorance is only proof to me that I should stop bothering to communicate with you. Perhaps, next time, you will have enough inner security to keep your opinion to yourself instead of asking "what the hell" someone's post is about. Everyone speaks because they desire to be heard. I do it because I want to help. You speak, at least here, solely out of insecurity; a need to spew destructive criticism to the benefit of no one.
PureWhiteMoonlight
Fighting is pointless.....
Drachona · 31-35, M
Arguing endlessly without an open mind is pointless. Sometimes a fight must be had, and it is not always a calm "debate". I try my best to choose my fights; to ignore the childish insults and challenge potentially harmful or misguided claims. Pacifism is an ideal, but a near impossibility while we still have physical bodies.