Objections to Evolution

@Pfuzylogic I agree. It was ancient Greek philosophy, but so was much of what we now think of as "Christian" doctrine. I don't know about different. I think it more a belief that humans are not different. In what way do you mean different?

@BibleData
Charles called Africans and Aborigines “savages” in his “Origin of Species”. His grandfather, Erasmus was famous back in the day for his support of “Social” Evolution.

@Pfuzylogic Now we're talkin'! Social evolution is what it's really all about. That's a good reason to object to evolution. It's cultural.

@BibleData
Just interjected racism with selective evidence to form a theory.

@Pfuzylogic
Get rid of God and the uppity nonwhites with one stone and you can control the world! Er, ahem, resources that is. It isn't politicized of course.

Hot damn! I think we got us a consp'rcy boys! Yeeeehaw!

@BibleData
Not so sure it was a coordinated conspiracy as much as a pervasive bias to the truth and ugly racism that was pervasive in Great Britain at the time.

@Pfuzylogic I've always thought there was a correlation between the first and second industrial revolution and eugenics/evolution. The "age of enlightenment" as it were. Steam powered ships bringing other religions to America along with international traveling circuses of animals. Chimps dressed in human clothes, etc.

@BibleData
At the time, it wasn’t the ugly philosophy of eugenics. That came about a century later. Racism when it is pervasive, isn’t considered as such but rather advanced intellectual discourse.

@Pfuzylogic As Wikipedia states, "Types of eugenic practices have existed for millennia." So, there is a distinction there between to official practice and the concept we now know formerly as eugenics. It was rife during the industrial revolutions and so was incorporated by, not only evolutionists but creationists as well. Indiana, my home state, was, if I'm not mistaken, the first state to implement eugenics into law.

I agree with you on pervasive racism and eugenics. They don't call it that but it is that.

@BibleData
I recognize eugenics when the Nazis put it into practice.
I don’t use the term creationism because it is an easy out for atheists.
God is supernatural and above science not subject to it.

@Pfuzylogic Okay. I'm a little rusty with the Nazi connection. Did America get eugenics from Hitler or the other way around. I can't remember when the law was in Indiana.

Okay. Did a quick search. "Governor Hanly approved the first eugenics law on March 9, 1907, which made sterilization mandatory for criminals, idiots, rapists, and imbeciles in state custody. Laws of Indiana, 1907." A total of 1, 576 sterilizations occurred between 1936-1962, according to the Indianapolis Star.

@BibleData
I am thinking of eugenics based on racism.

@Pfuzylogic Yeah, it can certainly be that. I think of it in broader terms in this context because really, it's just power. For whatever reason, whether it be race, religion, science, politics, ideology etc. One just wants to get rid of another.

@BibleData
But from the beginning this imposes differences of makind were forged in racism in the early 19th century. When it tears it’s ugly head it echoes the prejudices of old.