I Believe We Were Created: Change My Mind
The basics. Start simple, from the top. Don't preach. My first question is, what is the scientific method?
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AkioTsukino · M
@DocSavage [quote]Ridiculous.[/quote]
What.
[quote]There is only one reason to believe in a god. Ignorance.[/quote]
Okay. Define god. If you can you're not ignorant of the subject. If you can't you are and therefore by your own admission, believe in a god.
What.
[quote]There is only one reason to believe in a god. Ignorance.[/quote]
Okay. Define god. If you can you're not ignorant of the subject. If you can't you are and therefore by your own admission, believe in a god.
DocSavage · M
@AkioTsukino
What do you mean define god ?
You make up god’s powers and abilities as you go. Whatever can’t be done, god can do it. No proof, no evidence needed. What would be the point ?
You can’t describe something that doesn’t exist, and has no characteristics.
What do you mean define god ?
You make up god’s powers and abilities as you go. Whatever can’t be done, god can do it. No proof, no evidence needed. What would be the point ?
You can’t describe something that doesn’t exist, and has no characteristics.
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DocSavage · M
@AkioTsukino
You have it backwards. I’m an Atheist. I have no need of any god.
What about you ? You say you don’t make up things as you go ?
Then why believe ? You must have something you want from god to make it worthwhile. Something that convinces you to overlook the reality. What is it ?
You have it backwards. I’m an Atheist. I have no need of any god.
What about you ? You say you don’t make up things as you go ?
Then why believe ? You must have something you want from god to make it worthwhile. Something that convinces you to overlook the reality. What is it ?
Diotrephes · 70-79, M
@AkioTsukino The biblical God character does not teach morality, only total loyalty and complete obedience.
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newjaninev2 · 56-60, F
@AkioTsukino No absolute morality... one less use for a god 👍
BlueSkyKing · M
@AkioTsukino How about defining a scientific God model, a theory of God? As a supreme being hypothesized to exist having the following attributes:
1. God is the creator and preserver of the universe.
2. God is the architect of the structure of the universe and the
author of the laws of nature.
3. God steps in whenever he wishes to change the course of events, which may include violating his own laws as, for example, in response to human entreaties.
4. God is the creator and preserver of life and humanity, where human beings are special in relation to other life- forms.
5. God has endowed humans with immaterial, eternal souls that exist independent of their bodies and carry the essence of a person's character and selfhood.
6. God is the source of morality and other human values such as freedom, justice, and democracy.
7. God has revealed truths in scriptures and by communicating directly to select individuals throughout history.
8. God does not deliberately hide from any human being
who is open to finding evidence for his presence.
Most of these attributes are traditionally associated with the Judeo-Christian-Islamic God, and many are shared by the gods of diverse religions.
1. God is the creator and preserver of the universe.
2. God is the architect of the structure of the universe and the
author of the laws of nature.
3. God steps in whenever he wishes to change the course of events, which may include violating his own laws as, for example, in response to human entreaties.
4. God is the creator and preserver of life and humanity, where human beings are special in relation to other life- forms.
5. God has endowed humans with immaterial, eternal souls that exist independent of their bodies and carry the essence of a person's character and selfhood.
6. God is the source of morality and other human values such as freedom, justice, and democracy.
7. God has revealed truths in scriptures and by communicating directly to select individuals throughout history.
8. God does not deliberately hide from any human being
who is open to finding evidence for his presence.
Most of these attributes are traditionally associated with the Judeo-Christian-Islamic God, and many are shared by the gods of diverse religions.
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AkioTsukino · M
@newjaninev2 Well, it isn't a use for god. God's don't have uses. Honestly, I don't think any of you have even the semblance of beginning to understand the simple meaning of the word god. That's how transparent the cultural and traditional paradigm has you blinded even to your own senses. While this isn't about that, it does have a profound implication to your insistence.
newjaninev2 · 56-60, F
@AkioTsukino Do you understand that what you’re writing is incoherent?
DocSavage · M
@AkioTsukino
Doesn’t answer the question. What does god do for you ? Do you believe in an immortal god, that created the universe with a word ? Does that belief give some sense of meaning or comfort ? Do you believe you’re part of god’s great plan ? Or do you think god will take you and care for your soul after death ? Few people who believe , believe they don’t get something for their faith. You say you want truth, what is it ? What convinces you there’s something more than empty space out there ?
Doesn’t answer the question. What does god do for you ? Do you believe in an immortal god, that created the universe with a word ? Does that belief give some sense of meaning or comfort ? Do you believe you’re part of god’s great plan ? Or do you think god will take you and care for your soul after death ? Few people who believe , believe they don’t get something for their faith. You say you want truth, what is it ? What convinces you there’s something more than empty space out there ?
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