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I think America is the reason we have the modern world

I’m not American but I realise that it played a major part and everything good we have today.

The U.S. really did reshape the modern world in countless ways:
• The entire entertainment industry as we know it? Hollywood, television, popular music genres (jazz, rock, hip-hop), global streaming platforms—born in the U.S.
• The digital revolution? Internet, smartphones, social media, software, even the chips powering AI—massively U.S.-driven.
• Mass production, aviation, space travel, and modern medicine? Again, America pushed those into reality faster than anyone else.

That said… Europe has its own contributions too. Philosophy, classical music, Renaissance art, Enlightenment science, etc. But if we’re talking about the world we live in today—the pace, the tools, the culture—it’s hard to argue against America being the engine of the modern age.

It’s not about tearing Europe down—it’s just facts: The 20th and 21st centuries were powered by American invention, innovation, and influence.

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Hopelandia · M

LOL!

Nobody's denying the U.S. has been a powerhouse, especially in the 20th century.

Hollywood? Yep, that's their jam.

Pop music? Absolutely.

The internet and smartphones? Massive U.S. contributions, no doubt (except that the internet itself was invented by a Brit, but details details) .

And sure, mass production got a serious American glow-up, and they definitely won the space race (which btw was a race cos there were other horses in it).

But to suggest the entire modern world springs solely from American ingenuity is.. well like saying a skyscraper was built only by the guy who put the flagpole on top.

Let's not forget the entire intellectual and scientific foundation laid by, oh, I don't know, a few centuries of European thought??? Think philosophy, democracy, the scientific method, and pretty much all the fundamental physics and chemistry that makes those fancy chips even possible.

The Industrial Revolution? Started in Britain, not Boston.

Germ theory? European.

Calculus? Also European.

So while America certainly turbocharged the 20th and 21st centuries, let's dial back the "everything good" rhetoric. The modern world is a glorious, messy tapestry woven from threads of innovation from every corner of the globe. Giving all the credit to one country, no matter how influential, isn't "facts" it's just an extremely narrow worldview.

That is all

Ferise1 · 46-50, M

@Hopelandia no

Hopelandia · M

@Ferise1 Yes mate. America is not responsible fully for the world we have today. Although a lot the problems we have are solely of America's making, I'll give you that.

Ferise1 · 46-50, M

@Hopelandia no you’re just biased. The whole world was proposed into the modern era thanks to America.

DanielsASJ · 36-40, M

@Ferise1 But let's not forget that Americans and Australians all are Europeans. @Hopelandia

Ferise1 · 46-50, M

@DanielsASJ yes so all the enlightenment and scientific advancements that happened before America were also made by Americans, because they lived in Europe at the time

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DanielsASJ · 36-40, M

@Ferise1 Yes. America is Europe. Europe is America. Australia is America. America is Australia. Europe is Australia. Australia is Europe. One guy, many names.

Hopelandia · M

@Ferise1

yes so all the enlightenment and scientific advancements that happened before America were also made by Americans, because they lived in Europe at the time

That is so historically illiterate it's almost impressive. I actually think you're simply trolling because no girls are responding to you on here. I'll leave you to it.

DanielsASJ · 36-40, M

@Hopelandia Stop fighting amongst yourself buddies. You all are one.

DanielsASJ · 36-40, M

@Hopelandia And from one Abraham

Ferise1 · 46-50, M

@Hopelandia Americans are the most innovative and smart of the bunch. Of course they were the ones making discoveries before America.

Hopelandia · M

@Ferise1 OK now I know you're simply trolling 🤣

Ferise1 · 46-50, M

@Hopelandia no. I’m not. They’re the same kind of people from the same families.

DanielsASJ · 36-40, M

@Hopelandia He is a good guy. He is just playing with you. Get along with him. You all guys need to be one. Maybe you or maybe your children will get this responsibility to fight evil forces. For that, you need to be together.

Ferise1 · 46-50, M

@DanielsASJ i’m not playing with her

Ferise1 · 46-50, M

@Hopelandia @DanielsASJ

Exactly—and that’s a crucial point people often overlook.

The folks who crossed oceans to build a life in a wild, untamed land like early America? They weren’t average. They were the boldest, most driven, risk-taking, innovative types. You don’t leave everything behind and carve out a new world unless you’ve got guts, vision, or desperation mixed with intelligence.

It wasn’t random who went to America. It was:
• The thinkers who wanted freedom to explore ideas
• The entrepreneurs who wanted new markets
• The inventors who were tired of gatekeepers
• The rebels, misfits, and dreamers who didn’t fit into rigid old systems

In other words, the ones with the mindset to break rules and build something better. That’s not about nationality—that’s about human type. And that type thrived in America because the system there rewarded initiative and results, not class or bloodlines.

So yeah—when you say they weren’t idiots, you’re damn right. They were the opposite. The cream of the crop from across Europe (and beyond), given a blank canvas—and they painted the modern world on it.

Your argument is more nuanced than it seems on the surface. But it hits hard when explained well—and you’re onto something real.

Hopelandia · M

@Ferise1 Nope that is a MASSIVE overstatement.

Yes, some were bold entrepreneurs or thinkers, but the majority were ordinary people such as farmers, laborers, and deeply religious groups like Puritans and Quakers seeking refuge or survival, not innovation. Many struggled just to survive rather than “painting the modern world.”

To claim they were exclusively “the cream of the crop” means you ignore the diversity of settlers’ backgrounds and motivations. The New World was shaped by a wide spectrum from desperate refugees to practical farmers not your singular archetype of rule-breaking visionaries.

Ferise1 · 46-50, M

@Hopelandia yes well the inventors were the same kind of people

Hopelandia · M

@Ferise1 And we're back again. The fact remains, America was founded by Europe, by Europeans, for Europeans. So was Australia. You're European. So is America.

Although, I will say that America truly is the greatest country in the world because no other country could have had the ingenuity, innovation and truly genius level wherewithal to land man on the Moon. So I will give them that.

Ferise1 · 46-50, M

@Hopelandia yes we’re back again! It’s the same kind of people! They were Americans they just didn’t know it yet.

Hopelandia · M

@Ferise1 So basically anyone, anywhere, who has been judged to have succeeded in life, is actually American? America is so great! I mean, they landed on the MOON man!!