Peace in Israel

@pancakeslam What they want ... is not relevant.. Israel can not tolerate Hamas creating a tunnel infested terror machine on the border.. so the rats nest must be eliminated permanently ... they had their chance to live in peace ... they blew it on a repeated basis.. its OVER.. Again what they want.. is no longer relevant - the population of Gaza will be pushed into the Sinai... The Egyptians can decide where they are to reside and they know it can not be adjacent to the border..

@pdqsailor1 you seem to have a pretty clear vision of the future of Israel 👍

@pancakeslam its a matter of looking at the key players what they say and more importantly what they will actually do and the situation... in this case both Trump and Netanyahu have stated and repeated the same ultimatum.. And Trump has laid out that Gaza is to be emptied of its population, Israel can NOT allow Gaza to return to its previous status as a launching point for terrorism so full displacement with the encouragement and blessing of the USA is entirely on the table and the outrage of the hostage situation gives every moral pretext to carry this out.. Hamas only has ONE card left to play - the hostages.. if they were smart they would play that card.. They are NOT smart.. Far from it... If I was them - every single hostage would be out of Gaza before Saturday at noon as an emergency priority.... They do not get it... Trump is not Biden - far from it and his Son in Law and his other advisors are fully sympathetic to the Settler movement - hard right wing.. You look at his selections for ambassador to the UN, for Ambassador to Israel and Secretary of State and what they have actually said on the matter.. The UN has therefore been fully contained - with the US veto.. NO ONE can stop this from happening and the flood gates have opened in shipments of bombs to Israel since the inauguration ... they have been fully stocked... Egypt desperately NEEDS the $1.6 B in aid money (so does Jordan ($1.5B)... Some sort of nonsense pretext to war needs to take place between Egypt and Israel to avoid an assassination of the president of Egypt as took place with Sadat.. (we tried but they won the war and now we have these Palestinians forced upon us.. - a valid and good good excuse)... and we need the aid money to balance out budget... Look if you remove the non-citizen Arabs from Israel no one is left to do terror attacks, the pretext for agitation and the means to do it are eliminated.. and in this case Trump happens to be correct - he is the one who actually will force peace on the Middle East.. Eliminating the fiction of a state of Palestine forever.. Then the future gets murky... the joke goes that for every two Jews there are three opinions.. With the Arab problem finally eliminated the political future and landscape of Israel is different - a smaller military will be needed to match the reduction in threat they face.. Taxes and spending priorities change.. A massive deterrent to those threatening the state externally is needed but it also already exists. A more peaceful region needs to be managed with brains. Do I think Trump has it right? On the Middle East - yes he shockingly has it correct.. On everything else - no not even close but on this ... yes he is totally correct and it has historic implications... The speed and pace of the changes are MIND blowing but a plan is in place and everyone is keeping to the plan... The Palestinians ... well they fucked up one time too many and its about to be permanently OVER.. they just have not realized it yet.. The program re-commences on Saturday.. for what I expect will be the final migration of Palestinians pushed out of Gaza from the North driven down to the southern border and out the door into the Sinai... and then the border will be sealed.. they are never coming back to Gaza.. 2.1 million Arabs removed and no longer able to cause mayhem in Israel.. and yes Gaza makes for an incredible development opportunity...

@VeronicaJane There is a massive rift in the Arab world - two separate groups.. Iran, their proxies Hezbollah and Hamas on one side, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Jordan on the other side.. Iran just lost its influence in Syria, got pummelled in Gaza (Hamas) and in Lebanon (Hezbollah) so the concept of cooperation was at best a false hope and it was dramatically degraded by Israel's massive success against Hamas and Hezbollah, also super effective operations against Iran directly and the Hutti rebels in Yemen... Egypt has suppressed the Muslim Brotherhood there and they will continue to do so.. This group is affiliated with Hamas and both are supported by Iran.. Hamas still exists but of course has been fully decapitated - all its leaders have been dispatched with all due prejudice... Once the issue of the Palestinians has been permanently and properly tossed into the dust bin.. the next phase will be a peace agreement with Saudi Arabia... They need access to Israel's ability to solve complex problems.. a situation that both nations can prosper in by working together..

@pdqsailor1 I tend to agree. Although there will be a new generation of children who all they know is that they've been taught to eradicte the jews, and they see what were their homes now reduced to rubble. Somehow I suspect the distinction that hamas fought in civilian clothes, hid weapons, fighters and hostages in residential homes, hospitals, UN buildings, mosques and schools won't occur to them.... and will grow up wanting revenge....

@BigGuy2 Do Egypt and Jordan want them? No are they going to be forced to take them? Yes. Why? they have no choice - they need the US aid money..

@pdqsailor1 ... shall we have a bet to see how long it'll take the Palestinians to foment a Civil War, probably in Egypt AND Jordan