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UK faces the biggest hit to growth of all major economies thanks to the Iran War.

What are we making this sacrifice for?
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peterlee · M
Probably about 5 to 10% drop in our standard of living

This will affect our children’s welfare, education. Demands on social services.
More burden on our health sevice.
Our decaying infrastructure will get worse.

Already we are experiencing price rises of 10%.
There will be shortages too of food, pharmaceuticals..

Our life expectancy will reduce.
specman · 51-55, M
What sacrifice is the UK making?
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peterlee · M
@kodiac How many Shi’ite have you worked with? Got to know in person. What do you know of Iranian culture?
@kodiac No, it's you who believes anything the Trump regime says. I literally just pointed out that the entirety of world leadership disagrees with him and you still take his narrative as fact and focus outwardly on me. You're brainwashed.
1490wayb · 56-60, M
you have been in dire straits for decades thanks to your generous social policiesand you keep taking in too many immigrants
FreddieUK · 70-79, M
@1490wayb
I hope my words inspire you to laugh and smile

Not on this occasion, unfortunately.
@1490wayb !!! WRONG !!!

Actually, Canada and the rest of the developed world have FAR more generous social policies. They offer universal health care, bettter pre-K support, and better retirement policies.

Regarding immigrants, among developed nations Germany and Poland are consistently top hosts of refugees relative to their population size, with Germany hosting over 2.75 million (roughly 3.4% of its population).

The US is in dire straits mostly due to the pernicious lie that tax cuts will eventually pay for themselves. This hasn't happened in the 45 years since Reagan preached it, but the urge to get something for nothing is too strong and prevents sound fiscal policy.
ArishMell · 70-79, M
@ElwoodBlues The present UK Government is not cutting taxes. It is increasing them, one effect being making it far harder to run businesses and employ anyone.

What our governments of both parties have done since the Conservatives at the same time as the Reaganb era is cutting, cutting and cutting public services, and giving away vast amounts of assets to foreign companies, stock-markets and even countries. This worship of so-called "inward investment" is as naive as the term's grammar, for its result obvious to anyone except a politician is that it is tantamount to giving the country's money away abroad.
So the remainder of the Epstein files don't get released.
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
That would be America..
H1raeth · 36-40, M
More inflation then? That sucks.
Musicman · 61-69, M
For making sure Iran does not have nuclear capabilities. Absolutely no one will be safe if they do.
FreddieUK · 70-79, M
@Musicman If you believe that, no wonder you're angry.
Musicman · 61-69, M
@FreddieUK I definitely don't believe that. That's just what Obama was claiming at the time.
peterlee · M
@Musicman Is that Trump’s objective?
It was regime change.

What is his mate Benjamin’s?
ArishMell · 70-79, M
A sacrifice in a political or military sense implies a degree of choice. Here we (UK) are being dragged down by the side effects of a war between three other countries, a war of dubious purpose, morality, legality and conclusion.
emiliya · 26-30, F
@ArishMell The long game is you thinking that you can one day topple Russia. That is what Ukraine is about. Russia is busy fighting for its survival which is why you can't see an end game. To keep the mitts of EU and USA off Russia is the point.

What we know about China is that they want you to keep buying their goods. China is a business. Why do you think it is something else? Because it's a business that wants you to mind your business? Minding your business isn't what you do. You and @peterlee are here talking about everybody else but you. You should be doing something about your problems. Trump would have done better had he thought about US. But he can't begin to grapple with the problems of US and spends his time bombing with Israel and making a ruckus among the nations of the world. You are no better than he because that is what you do in EU and UK. Would Ukraine be able to war without you? And will you allow peace deal? Europe is why there is no peace deal. Don't come here complaining about Trump when you beat the war drum. A different war drum is still a war drum.

Those with sense won't let you forget.
ArishMell · 70-79, M
@emiliya whgo wants Russia toppled? Ex-KGB officer Vladimir Putin thinks everyone is out to get him, but whilst there are plenty in the world including no doubt many Russians who would be glad to see his regime end, no-one wants the country destroyed.

No-one wants to do to Russia, the nation, your home, what Russia's government is tryingto to to Ukraine, or Israel and Iran are trying to do to each other, or the USA is attempting to do to Iran.

Oh, and whenn you use the metaphor, be careful for your sake that you are not seen by your country's authorities as describing your government's attempted destruction of Ukraine as a war. It is officially a "special military operation" - and it is highly illgeal to question it, or to call it an invation or a war.

(That warning is if you are writing as a private citizen of your beloved Russia, not in an official capacity as a Kremlin press-office staff-member.)


As for minding our own nation's business, that's what Putin should be doing too, but sadly many wars do affect far many more countries and people than merely the combatant forces units.
FreddieUK · 70-79, M
@emiliya
Would Ukraine be able to war without you? And will you allow peace deal?

There wouldn't be a war in Ukraine if Putin hadn't invaded a sovereign country. 'We' (I assume you mean the UK) want peace immediately, but Putin's bombs keep falling, so there is none. Bullies are running rampant at the moment.

 
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