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What is behind the blind generational hatred Britain has for Russia?

It is almost built into the psyche of Britain that must do what ever it can to destroy Russia. Witness the peace talks in Washington yesterday when Starmer suggested that Britain send soldiers to be 'peace keepers'. Of course he knew full well that any such action would be seen as a provocation by Russia ending the peace treaty should there be one.
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FreddieUK · 70-79, M
This is so wrong at all levels, it almost defies a rational response. The wrong assumptions about the UK and its people, Putin and his regime and the gross distortion of what is 'Christian' about the Russian Orthodox Church leadership mean that there is too much wrong-headedness to cope with.

The UK does not hate Russia or its people.
It wants to see a just peace in Ukraine
Russia under Putin is an aggressor in an unjust war on a sovereign nation it had previously recognised. THEY are provocateurs
It is surprising for someone who claims to be from 'Bible believing' tradition to be so defensive about an institution which relies as much on traditions and does not accept ideas of 'election' or personal salvation as mainstream protestant does.

I stand by for personal vilification.
hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M
@FreddieUK The UK has no interest in peace in Ukraine as evidenced by its rejection of the Minsk Accords.
FreddieUK · 70-79, M
@hippyjoe1955 That is your view.
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FreddieUK · 70-79, M
@hippyjoe1955 You twist offers of peacekeeping troops into something else. There will be no European troops inside Ukraine unless there is an agreement with the Russians for that to happen. Putin does not need to worry about the west as long as there are views like yours around to give him comfort that he can do what he likes wherever he likes without consequence.
hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M
@FreddieUK Russia has made it extremely clear. No peace keepers since the entire war was about keeping NATO out of Ukraine. The peace keepers Starmer has in mind is NATO.
FreddieUK · 70-79, M
@hippyjoe1955 In which case the offer won't be taken up. I assume, therefore you will be happy to see Ukraine totally overwhelmed by Russia and back under the boot of a foreign nation.
hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M
@FreddieUK I would love for you to open your eyes and see what is really going on In Ukraine. I had my eyes opened in 2014 by a young lady from eastern Ukraine. She told me, over Christmas dinner that her Mom's house had been destroyed by artillery fire. I was shocked I had not heard of any conflict an asked it the shells were Russian. She said that the shells were Ukrainian. It seemed that the Ukrainians living in the western part hated the Ukrainians living in the eastern part of Ukraine because the people living in Eastern Ukraine were ethnic Russians and spoke Russian at home. I did some investigation and found out that she was not lying. In fact by the time Russia adopted Eastern Ukraine as its own territory Western Ukraine had killed about 40,000 Eastern Ukrainians with its artillery and guerrilla raids. That has never been reported in the Western Press as the goal has always been to sustain a very very very corrupt Ukraine and use it as a weapon against Russia. The ultimate goal was regime change in Russia so the West can steal the resources of Russia.
ididntknow · 56-60, M
@FreddieUK propaganda, Russia has no desire or plan, to take the whole of Ukraine, stop listening to mainstream media
FreddieUK · 70-79, M
@ididntknow By 'mainstream media', I suppose you mean media that has a different narrative from yours.
hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M
@FreddieUK Would "Official Narrative" be more appropriate?
FreddieUK · 70-79, M
@hippyjoe1955 Whose 'official' narrative?
hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M
@FreddieUK The one that you keep spouting. It is the narrative of the government that wants to go to war.
FreddieUK · 70-79, M
@hippyjoe1955 And so we go round in circles. You and I do not agree what the motives of the government of the UK are. Your conversation with one Ukrainian lady has led you to a position from which you now see everything else. That's fine. We all have our input, it's just that some have a wider view than others.
hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M
@FreddieUK My ideas come from many sources. My mistrust of Government is very well founded. How many jabs did you get to prevent covid? How many WMDs were found in Iraq? What did we gain by taking out Libya? What did we gain by attacking Yugoslavia? What did we gain by attacking Afghanistan? What did the US gain in its war in Vietnam?
FreddieUK · 70-79, M
@hippyjoe1955 All fair points.
hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M
@FreddieUK The war in Ukraine is the result of American and British interference in Ukraine resulting in the Eastern oblasts of Ukraine having a democratic election and voting to join Russia. Russia then held a vote in its parliament accepting those regions into Russia. Only then did the Russians move to defend its territory. Kind of like Britain going to the Falklands and not at all like Canada attacking the Metis in Western Canada in 1885.