Random
Only logged in members can reply and interact with the post.
Join SimilarWorlds for FREE »

British values

Today the rather grisly spectacle of the competition to elect a new leader continues at the Conservative Party annual conference in Birmingham. Kemi Badenoch, the bookies favourite, has nailed her colours to a "hard-nosed immigration policy", which is sure to go down well with the party faithful. Short on policy specifics, she refers frequently to "British values", stating that "Our country is not a dormitory for people to come here and make money. It is our home." (this may come as news to the average party member whose "values" essentially amount to accumulating wealth, avoiding taxes, before retiring to sunnier climes).

Badenoch is a second generation immigrant, like me. Born in London, she spent her childhood in Nigeria and America before settling back in England (presumably for patriotic, non-economic purposes). She seems confident when talking about behaviour that is at odds with British values ("ancestral ethnic hostilities", "lack of integration", those who "hate Israel"), less certain in actually defining what she seeks to defend. Given the ridicule attached to Tories in recent political history that have attempted this (John Major - spinsters cycling to church on a Sunday morning accompanied by the gentle thwack of leather on willow . . Theresa May - vicar's daughter romping in a corn field) she is probably wise to remain vague.

But I will be interested to learn more as and when she choses to define her idea of patritism more positively. For the record, my own "British values" are:

* Respect for the rule of law and other rules-based systems
* Making sure that no one is left behind economically or socially
* Taking my place in the queue and paying my fair share of taxes
* Positive progress through education and decent basic healthcare
* Hospitality and respectful treatment of everyone, even those who seem strange or inconvenient to us

Those are the values passed down to me by my immigrant mum and Polish grandparents, and reinforced by my British dad. Values which I think are worth defending.
This page is a permanent link to the reply below and its nested replies. See all post replies »
senghenydd · M

Sorry all I'm voting Conservative next time it's just the way things are.
OldBrit · 61-69, M
@senghenydd in the interests of balance.

All people over 60 get free eye tests - I get them and I'm not on state pension.

The £150 is individually assessed you only get it if your bills are higher than similar properties etc it's assessed once a year. So isn't a given.
senghenydd · M
@OldBrit Maybe your an exception to the rule, I'm not changing who I said I would vote for in the next election, if I was a bit younger I would think about packing up and going elsewhere.

What about Bus passes do you get free passes we do in Wales.
OldBrit · 61-69, M
@senghenydd I can when I get to state pension age which for me will be 67. I'm just about to turn 62 so 5 years away yet.
senghenydd · M
@OldBrit In five years time you'll be Pensioner A having paid into the system and will receive your full pension, you might be worse off than Pensioner B it's a funny old world.

If we lived in China they retire at 54 years old although they are going to raise that by a few years shortly.
OldBrit · 61-69, M
@senghenydd I won't get a full pension as I stopped working at 57. So won't have paid in for the last 10 years.
senghenydd · M
@OldBrit I can't remember exactly but if you have thirty years or more contributions you should be alright I started work at sixteen I think that counts.
OldBrit · 61-69, M
@senghenydd I thought that but if you don't pay in the latter years up to 67 they reduce the amount you get. That's what I'm told anyway.
senghenydd · M
@OldBrit Yes your right you'll have to check, there's a government web site which you can access it will help you understand your own case, have your NI number ready you could pay additional contributions if needed or you could simply calculate and discover it's simply not worth bothering with.

Again consider pensioner A & B there's an invisible factor here I just don't know whether you would be better off filling in any gaps or not.
MasterLee · 56-60, M
@senghenydd good choice