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newjaninev2 · 56-60, F
So was russia
Lonar2 · 26-30, F
@newjaninev2 Obviously! The purpose of my post is the posters I have exhibited

Yes, in 1922, following the Ukrainian-Soviet War (1917–1921), Bolshevik forces took control of Ukraine and added it to the USSR. During its time in the USSR, the Ukrainian language was suppressed but never fully outlawed. Use of the Russian language was forced in public life, education, and administration, in Ukraine.

During that time, Ukraine was essentially a colony of the USSR - a colony with a better climate such that many Russian colonizers moved in and took up residence, especially in Crimea.

Did Ukrainians like being a colony?? Current events strongly suggest they preferred home rule and the Ukrainian language.
MrAverage1965 · 61-69, M
I guess there are some who wish it still was. Although, that's for the people of Ukraine to decide, no one else.
Daviszabecki · 56-60, M
@MrAverage1965 exactly so
samueltyler2 · 80-89, M
Putin wants to remake the Russian Federation like the USSR!
newjaninev2 · 56-60, F
@samueltyler2 Yes, he's completely neurotic about having lost the 'bully boy' status he enjoyed in the Soviet Union
onewithshoes · 26-30, F
It was part of the Russian Empire for many centuries.
newjaninev2 · 56-60, F
@onewithshoes Kyiv founded Kievan Rus' - today's russia.

Russia is part of the Ukrainian empire, but for some reason the russian terrorists are very selective about how far back into history they want to go 😂
onewithshoes · 26-30, F
@newjaninev2 True, and well noted; but was there any time before the twentieth century when Russia and the Ukraine existed simultaneously as two separate sovereign states?
samueltyler2 · 80-89, M
@onewithshoes google:


was there ever separate russia and ukraine



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Yes, Russia and Ukraine have historically been separate entities, though their histories have been deeply intertwined and often controlled by Moscow. Ukraine has existed as a distinct cultural entity for centuries and achieved modern independence in 1991 following the collapse of the Soviet Union.
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Key periods and context of separation include:
Early History: While sharing roots in medieval Kyivan Rus (9th–13th centuries), the regions developed different regional identities.
Divided Rule: For centuries, much of Ukraine was outside Russian control, often under Polish or Lithuanian rule, while the East came under Russian control much earlier.
Ukrainian Independence (1918): Following the Russian Revolution, a distinct Ukrainian National Republic declared independence in 1918 before being incorporated into the Soviet Union.
Independence (1991): With the fall of the USSR, over 85% of Ukrainians voted for independence.
Modern Separation: Despite close relations, Ukraine has been an independent sovereign state separate from Russia since 1991, with this separation becoming violent with Russia’s annexation of Crimea in 2014 and the 2022 invasion.
University of Rochester
University of Rochester
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Jayciedubb · 56-60, M
This is one of the reasons Germany thought they would win a war against the USSR. They thought they'd be greeted as liberators by most of the Russian (Ukranian) people, and they were by many. The Nazi party wasn't exclusively a German thing either.

The Germans actually thought the US were going to fight alongside them and help them defeat the Soviet Union. Considering how long it took us to enter the war in Europe, I've wondered that myself. It seemed like we were waiting to see who was going to win before we picked a side. ..like what dogs do as they watch 2 pack members fight, as soon as one shows signs of losing, the rest jump in and help the winner

 
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