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Kwek00 · 41-45, M
The issue is that Ukraine today, like the majority of western-countries, is pluralistic. This means that there are segments of people that organise under different banners. One of those factions in our societies are people that are hooked on far-right ideas, that includes people that believe in forms of National-Socialism.
Russia, was looking for a reason to give legitimacy for it's antagonisms towards Ukraine. One of the tactics is, to use the NAZI faction in society and frame it as "the norm" instead of "the exception". It's the exception, because it's political support during the elections of 2019, was really low in comparisson to the other parties. However, if you use your propaganda network, and frame it as a huge issue it starts having it's own life in the imagination of those that watch pro-russian propaganda. Now, National-Socialist being obsessed with the purity of the blood that is linked to the soil, doesn't support foreign blood occupying the soil of the fatherland. So these NAZI's, in the Russian narrative, are a threat to the Russians living in the border areas with Russia and Ukraine. So... now you have a story where Ukraine is overrun by NAZI's, who are threatening the Russians that are living within the Ukrainian border and Russia can take the mantle of "protector" to protect the Russians living in Ukraine from the danger of ethnic cleansing. So Russia wants to "de-Nazify" Ukraine to save their lost sheep in the border area.
... that's pretty much what is happening.
It's a similair story that Donald Trump is using in the case of South-Africa. Where the threat of hate-groups towards white-people is overblown and presented as the norm. And this gives legitimacy to take in the refugees from South-Afrika. Refugees, that are largely white people that have embraced a victim narrative after loosing the power of being segregationists/racists when Apartheid crumbled. The tactic is always to overrepresent a threat, that in reality isn't worthy of the weight given to it. And it's handy, because the moment someone points out that this "isn't a thing", you can point on that small segment that really excists to show that it is a thing... they just casually forget that the weight they give to the thing doesn't give legitimacy the amount drama they are creating around it. At the end of the day, it's pretty emo.
Russia, was looking for a reason to give legitimacy for it's antagonisms towards Ukraine. One of the tactics is, to use the NAZI faction in society and frame it as "the norm" instead of "the exception". It's the exception, because it's political support during the elections of 2019, was really low in comparisson to the other parties. However, if you use your propaganda network, and frame it as a huge issue it starts having it's own life in the imagination of those that watch pro-russian propaganda. Now, National-Socialist being obsessed with the purity of the blood that is linked to the soil, doesn't support foreign blood occupying the soil of the fatherland. So these NAZI's, in the Russian narrative, are a threat to the Russians living in the border areas with Russia and Ukraine. So... now you have a story where Ukraine is overrun by NAZI's, who are threatening the Russians that are living within the Ukrainian border and Russia can take the mantle of "protector" to protect the Russians living in Ukraine from the danger of ethnic cleansing. So Russia wants to "de-Nazify" Ukraine to save their lost sheep in the border area.
... that's pretty much what is happening.
It's a similair story that Donald Trump is using in the case of South-Africa. Where the threat of hate-groups towards white-people is overblown and presented as the norm. And this gives legitimacy to take in the refugees from South-Afrika. Refugees, that are largely white people that have embraced a victim narrative after loosing the power of being segregationists/racists when Apartheid crumbled. The tactic is always to overrepresent a threat, that in reality isn't worthy of the weight given to it. And it's handy, because the moment someone points out that this "isn't a thing", you can point on that small segment that really excists to show that it is a thing... they just casually forget that the weight they give to the thing doesn't give legitimacy the amount drama they are creating around it. At the end of the day, it's pretty emo.