Is Ukraine a corrupt country? I don’t know what to think or believe.

@Gibbon hmmmm

@NoGamesTolerated That's what Vance pushed for. Right there in the oval office. Have ever said thank you once. He humiliated him and he deserved it.

@Gibbon yeah, I heard it. Watched it myself. I was trying to decide if Trump/Vance were rude to Zelensky. I don’t know what to think or believe. I just don’t know enough about Ukraine.

@NoGamesTolerated I just know he had discussion with Lindsey Graham before hand. My mind why and WTH. I don't trust him.
I've said this over and over Z wasn't trying to have a discussion he was deflecting the whole time. You could see Trump getting ticked off.
I don't know why he showed other than to make some unknown point on US cameras with the president. He had no intention of signing and giving up total control. If Europe puts any stipulations on him affecting his control he won't agree either. Without them he's backed into a corner.
If he fights on his own it's a slaughter house.

@Gibbon One day when you are fighting for your life, lets see if you take time out to thank anyone. My bet is you don't even think about it. I am not talking about after you are in the hospital, but when you are laying on the road, an arm and a leg missing and you are bleeding out, and some stranger is there trying to save you.
tRump and Vance think the fellow dying should be saying thank you over and over because they are such swell guys.