Pull out of Ukraine

@fanuc2013 is Russia the REAL antagonist here - i think it's a UNIVERSAL 'given' that Ukraine is the most corrupt Nation on the planet - when Bidens Special Envoy to the Ukraine was asked in the Senate "does Ukraine have Bio-weapons labs" - the response was very telling - to me, the response should have been - "if the American government comes across ANY bio-weapons labs ANYWHERE in the World, they will be bombed into oblivion"

...what she actually said was "the Biden Administration is working closely with the Ukranian Govt. to keep that research out of the hands of the Russians"

@BigGuy2 trolls are here

@jimjim1969 👍 cheers for the heads-up

@BigGuy2 Corrupt or not, that has nothing to do with another country invading, committing war crimes, with the intent of taking their resources, and setting the stage for expanding their empire and influence by fear and intimidation. There is a lot of corruption in this country, so, should we just let another country come in, kill our citizens , and take over?

@fanuc2013 ... there was a War Reporter in the Ukraine making a report to camera - wearing the usual flack jacket with 'press' printed on the front - in the background, there was what appeared to be 2 tourists taking pictures ... let that concept sink in

@BigGuy2 What does that have to do with an aggressor coming into another country and killing civilians in order to take over ?

@fanuc2013 i can't believe i'm having to point this out to you ... the 'Puppet Masters' are trying to engineer a War in a country that is the most corrupt regime in the World

@BigGuy2 Your opinion! I would say the current regime in the USA is much more corrupt!

@fanuc2013 nope, COUNTLESS people have stated that the Ukraine is the most corrupt Nation in the World ... yes, i agree that Biden and the Democrats are worse than Ukraine, but if the Republicans were as bad as the Democrats, the USA would indeed be worse than Ukraine

@BigGuy2 Still irrelevant to a country trying to take over another.

@fanuc2013 The US is trying to destroy Russia. Look up the MInsk Accords. They were ignored by NATO and the US in contravention of International Law. The US and its allies are the bad guys here. Sadly the press is owned by the Military Industrial Complex that is the US government and doesn't give balanced reporting. Stop drinking their koolaide. You will be much better informed if you do.

@fanuc2013 ... Biden's Special Envoy to the Ukraine was asked in the Senate, "does Ukraine have Bio-Weapons Labs" - her reply was quite telling - as it should have been her saying "if America comes across any Bio-Weapons Labs anywhere, we will bomb them" ... but no, what she did say was, "we are closely working with the Ukranian Govt. to keep bio. research out of the hands of the Russians" - is it sinking in now that you're falling for all these lies about the War ... SUPPOSED War

@hippyjoe1955 👍

@fanuc2013 Of course, if the Treaty of Versailles hadn't imposed such harsh treatment on Germany after ww1, ww2 would likely have never happened; and were it not the globalist practice of forming pacts/mutual defense agreements with everyone, ww1 would've never happened...

Invasions & Assassinations don't cause world wars, posturing & alliances do...

@wildbill83 i agree with you in principle, but were they really that harsh, bearing in mind that it was a true World War ... the 1st ever World War in the history of mankind ... i believe that on the 1st day of the battle of Passendale {sorry, maybe wrong spelling} - there was 20,000 deaths - that's human beings we're talking about here

@BigGuy2 Mines in the Battle of Messines in 1917 still has the distinction of killing the most people in a non-nuclear explosion in history. The British literally dug tunnels under German trenches, filled them with several hundred tons of explosive, then detonated it all at once. They killed over 10,000 in a single blast...

@wildbill83 WOW ... i see where you're coming from about harsh treatment, but what you've just said reinforces my viewpoint ... if they didn't start the War, that explosion wouldn't have happened AND that the ToV wasn't harsh because of that kind of slaughter - i don't know the details surrounding what you've just outlined, but i'm guessing it was deemed by the British to be a knock-out blow - obviously wasn't - but it still doesn't get away from the fact thaf if the War didn't start in the 1st place, that battle wouldn't gave happened

there will always be wars; my point is that you'd think the world would have figured out by now which ones to get involved in, and which ones to avoid; from a historical standpoint, getting into war over political/border disputes rarely ends well; If getting involved in Ukraine leads to a bigger war in the future, another world war later, then the losses incurred in the current one will seem insignificant by comparison.

It's naive & shortsighted to get involved in war to save a few thousand that only creates more enemies if/when it leads to a major war that kills millions & destabilizes entire countries...

We're still suffering the fallout from the USSR's collapse in '91; with the abundance of black market arms trading, militant groups and terrorists sprang up everywhere, it created a power vacuum for 2nd and 3rd world countries.

Only a fool would think pushing Russia into another collapse would somehow benefit the world, especially if the west bankrupts itself in the process and plunges the world into complete anarchy...

@fanuc2013 you fell for liberal propaganda and now think Russia is the evil one