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Pull out of Ukraine

We need to be [b]America First[/b] and get out of Ukraine and NATO. Let them sort their own business out and stop wasting our tax money. Russia is winning and doing well anyways. It's a waste of money

Same thing with Taiwan. America should always come first. These liberals want to fight China and Russia and for what??
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PTCdresser57 · 61-69, M
BS...where would the world be had we done that in WW1 and WW2?
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@PTCdresser57 You just justified the Russian action in Ukraine. Ukraine was busy committing genocide until Russia invaded. Much like the Nazis of Germany the Nazis of Ukraine were doing ethnic cleansing. Russia had to act to preserve lives.
PTCdresser57 · 61-69, M
Proof@hippyjoe1955?
@hippyjoe1955 this is the first time I've heard of genocide. Where did you hear that from?
helensusanswift · 26-30, F
@hippyjoe1955 Genocide? That's new. Which race were they destroying?
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@helensusanswift You are not aware of the Azov Battalion in Eastern Ukraine and the genocide they were committing? Maybe you need some better sources of information. CNN is not going to tell you the whole story.
helensusanswift · 26-30, F
@hippyjoe1955 No idea what CNN is. Tell us of the genocide.
PTCdresser57 · 61-69, M
Azov Battalion is not part of the Ukraine government @hippyjoe1955.
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@PTCdresser57 Yeah it is. Not officially but it is sponsored by the governments of Ukraine and the US.
PTCdresser57 · 61-69, M
No they aren't hippyjoe1955...they are a bunch of volunteers that are privately funded.
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@PTCdresser57 No they are sponsored by the two governments. One could be brutally honest and state the FACT that the Azov's and the CIA installed Zelinski. He is their actor puppet president. They provide him with protection and lots of money.
@hippyjoe1955 true, Ukraine is a total puppet. While Russia is looking to defeat liberal globalism
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@Stargazer89 I think Russia is simply trying to defend its borders and stop the slaughter of people who want to live in peace.
helensusanswift · 26-30, F
@hippyjoe1955 By invading Ukraine and slaughtering tens of thousands of Ukrainian civilians, abducting children, raping women, torturing men and threatening nuclear war?
Come on!
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@helensusanswift It is not civilians that are being killed. It is Ukrainian soldiers. The region already held a vote and voted to join Russia. Maybe you missed that. There is a lot of misinformation in the fog of war. Ukraine and the US are the bad guys here. They started the war. They are losing the war. Sadly there are no winners in war. This whole thing should never have happened and we have only the US to blame.
helensusanswift · 26-30, F
@hippyjoe1955 Would you trust a Russian rigged vote?
Surely not!
The Russians have been targeting civilians since they started the war; rocket attacks on residential areas all over Ukraine - hence the millions of Ukrainian refugees.
The Russians attacked Ukraine (again). They are the bad guys here, not the US or Ukraine.
The Russians are taking huge casualties in their massed attacks.
Hopefully the Russian people get the message that Putin has led them astray and they leave Ukraine in peace. All of it.
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@helensusanswift Why would I trust the American propaganda about it being a rigged vote. Biden won 80 million rigged ballots.
helensusanswift · 26-30, F
@hippyjoe1955 Oh come on- you're an intelligent man. You don't believe that.
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@helensusanswift I don't believe it. I KNOW IT! Biden did not win the election.
helensusanswift · 26-30, F
@hippyjoe1955 Its so sad that you don't trust democracy.
Biden won
Trump lost
Try again next time.
that's how democracy works.
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@helensusanswift I do trust democracy. Biden did not win. The US has not had a free and open election for years. Trump won completely by accident since no one thought he would win. I mean seriously do you think a doddering old man like dementia Joe could have been elected dog catcher? Maybe you should invest in some ocean front property in northern Saskatchewan. I have some for sale cheap.
helensusanswift · 26-30, F
@hippyjoe1955 It's sad to read that an American - I take it you are from the US? - has such a jaundiced view of his own country. Maybe people in the US simply preferred the democrats to the republicans? It happens.
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@helensusanswift I don't believe in "my country right or wrong". I believe in my country should be in the right side of history
helensusanswift · 26-30, F
@hippyjoe1955 That's a fair thing to say. And in this instance, I think the USA is on the right side of history.
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@helensusanswift And I completely disagree. The US has an established record of being wrong. Vietnam, the Middle East, Yugoslavia, Afghanistan, and now Ukraine. Not a stellar record.
helensusanswift · 26-30, F
@hippyjoe1955 maybe not always victorious, but with the right motives. Look what Afghan is like without the US/UK presence , for instance.