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Is the war in Ukraine over?

Follow the time line
German Chancellor makes a sudden very hush hush trip to Washington to meet Biden. No reporters or press conferences were held.
12 hours later the 'story' broke that Ukrainian allies had blown up Nord Stream.

How to interpret. Germany told Biden that either the war ends or Germany is out of NATO. Germany gives Biden an out. Blame some rogue element in Ukraine as an excuse to start to distance the US and NATO from Ukraine.

Watch now and see if more and more 'bad' things about Ukraine are 'uncovered'. Maybe Zelensky will be shown to be collaborating with nazis or the government of Ukraine it too corrupt and is stealing all the money and selling all the arms. We can't be sure but it appears as though the war may well be winding down and all the money and arms delivered or promised won't be going to Ukraine after all. Sadly for Ukraine the withdrawal of support will be the end of Ukraine as Russia has largely destroyed the Ukrainian Army and Airforce.

What can be said is that this war has done immense damage to the US and to NATO. Will either of them recover? Time will tell. What we do know is that Russia and China have more power and influence around the world that they ever did before the war in Ukraine.

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Carazaa · F

Russia and China have more power and influence? I disagree that Russia has gained anything at all with this war except lost the respect of the entire world regardless what Ukraine has done!

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hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M

@Carazaa If you are relying on the western media for your information you would believe that. However Russia's economy is growing. The US economy is shrinkiing. Russian banks have never been stronger. US banks are collapsing. Russia is having no trouble arming its troops in the field. The US can't provide enough artillery shells for Ukraine to survive. Russia is winning this war handily and the US is about to lose its place in the world since the Russian block of nations is now more prosperous than the US block.

Carazaa · F

@hippyjoe1955 Sounds like you are reading some strange news media 😉

hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M

@Carazaa No I just have better sources than you. When Putin is free to walk in what was formerly Ukraine and hailed as a hero you know that he is not losing the war. Putin had a trip to Crimea yesterday. Did you hear about it?

Carazaa · F

@hippyjoe1955 Ofcourse, very disgusting murderer and a fascist like Trump, and he will not win that war!

hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M

@Carazaa Sounds like you are describing Zelenski and Biden. Tell me how many wars did Trump start?

ElwoodBlues · M

@hippyjoe1955 [quote] According to the MSM Russia should have folded like a cheap tent a year ago as Ukraine triumphantly marched into Moscow.[/quote]

[quote]No I just have better sources than you.[/quote]
[big][b] !!! ROTFL !!! [/b][/big]

hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M

@ElwoodBlues So how many wars did Trump start?

ElwoodBlues · M

@hippyjoe1955 According to your logic, the fact that the MSM reported only retreats by Trump proves Trump was super aggresive, [b]LOL!!![/b]

hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M

@ElwoodBlues So how many wars did Trump start? Honest question. Please answer.

Carazaa · F

@hippyjoe1955 He divided the beautiful USA with hate towards blacks, the poor, the immigrants, women, he is a murderer!

ElwoodBlues · M

@hippyjoe1955 Trump has started a dozen wars on the truth at least.

Trump's war on the truth about Covid led to about 275,000 excess US deaths. All through Trump's term, our Covid per capita death rate was DOUBLE that of countries like Canada & Germany, resulting in about 550,000 Covid deaths under Trump.

If Trump had handled Covid as well as, say, Justin Trudeau, we'd have had 275,000 FEWER DEATHS! Put another way, Trump's mis-management of Covid cost more deaths than THREE Viet Nam wars!! Three Viet Nams in a SINGLE YEAR, not spread out over ten years like the actual war!!!

Sure, Covid came from outside. And different leaders in different countries managed it differently. Trump's piss-poor Covid management is made clear by the relative per capita death rates.

[quote]"I look at it this way," Birx told CNN's Chief Medical Correspondent Sanjay Gupta. "The first time, we have an excuse. There were about 100,000 deaths that came from that original surge. All of the rest of them, in my mind, could have been mitigated or decreased substantially."[/quote]

hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M

@Carazaa So in other words he didn't send Americans to die on foreign lands by declaring war on outer Mongolia. Hmmm BTW Trump didn't do any dividing of America. That was done by the brain dead leftists who refused to accept that Hillary lost a fair and open election. They fixed that though. Now the US doesn't have fair and open elections and people like the child molester Biden are installed.

hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M

@ElwoodBlues So you can't name one war started by Trump. Sucks to be you. How about Biden? How many wars has he started? How about the one going on in Ukraine. Didn't happen under Trump's watch but now Biden started the war, committed a war crime by blowing up the pipelines and is now about to lose NATO. So much for the success of your side. Maybe if you tried to use your head for more than a place to store you touque.....

hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M

@ElwoodBlues Oh and one more thing. Covid was created by Fauci under Obama's watch. Nice of you to show your ignorance of facts again.

Carazaa · F

@hippyjoe1955 The USA has no leftists. The USA has regular people who care about this country, against fascist murderers!

ElwoodBlues · M

@hippyjoe1955 [quote]So in other words he didn't send Americans to die on foreign lands by declaring war on outer Mongolia.[/quote] No, instead he sent Americans to die in hospitals after a month in the ICU because he mismanaged Covid so badly.

[quote] Covid was created by Fauci under Obama's watch.[/quote] DUUUDE!!! Changing your tune, are you?? You used to tell us Covid was a very mild flu, and nobody was dying from it!

hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M

@Carazaa The US is full of leftist nazis. Many of them are in the federal government.

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ElwoodBlues · M

@hippyjoe1955 BTW, it's cool that Obama is still living rent-free in your head! Has Obama been living there since he was elected in 2008??

BTW, the Nazis were bitterly opposed to leftists.
In Germany in the 1930s,
the Nazis bitterly opposed the Social Democrats;
the Nazis bitterly opposed the Socialists;
the Nazis bitterly opposed the Trade Unionists;
and the Nazis bitterly opposed the Communists.

When I say "bitterly opposed" it means the Nazis sent brownshirt thugs to disrupt rallies and fight in the streets against their political opponents. The Nazis were a reactionary party reacting against the left wing in Germany at the time. The Nazis built their platform on racism, nationalism, and fear of the foreign.

P.S.: please tell us what "news source" supplies these [i]outlandish[/i] conspiracy theories you keep mentioning

Carazaa · F

@hippyjoe1955

I think you need to read Jesus words, The sermon on the mount!

[quote][c=BF0000]
Matthew 19

16 Just then a man came up to Jesus and asked, “Teacher, what good thing must I do to get eternal life?”

17 “Why do you ask me about what is good?” Jesus replied. “There is only One who is good. If you want to enter life, keep the commandments.”

18 “Which ones?” he inquired.

Jesus replied, “‘You shall not murder, you shall not commit adultery, you shall not steal, you shall not give false testimony, 19 honor your father and mother,’[c] and ‘love your neighbor as yourself.’[d]”

20 “All these I have kept,” the young man said. “What do I still lack?”

21 Jesus answered, “If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me.”

22 When the young man heard this, he went away sad, because he had great wealth.

23 Then Jesus said to his disciples, “Truly I tell you, it is hard for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of heaven. 24 Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of God.”[/c][/quote]

hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M

@ElwoodBlues Yawn. Go away. You are that clueless. Not even worth having a discussion with. You are truly are that stupid. Not an insult just a fact.

hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M

@Carazaa Do you have a point? If you do you haven't made it.

Carazaa · F

@hippyjoe1955 Read it again!

ElwoodBlues · M

@hippyjoe1955 You have broadcast your ignorance of scripture before; it's not surprising you are unable to read it.

hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M

@Carazaa I now it well. What is the point you are trying to make in quoting it?

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