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Abstraction · 61-69, M
Putin would realise his theory that the west is weak, disunified and will eventually always ultimately capitulate is correct. His army is in a mess currently but whether he continues now or after a ceasefire he will continue efforts until he takes Ukraine. If you read his own words about his view on Ukraine, its history and what should happen it's quite clear he considers it part of Russia.
More immediately: Ukraine is a much better run army, better soldiers, stronger morale and even with fewer numbers Russia has been unable to defeat them. However, [u]when you run out of ammunition you run out of fight[/u]. Ukraine has had an invading army almost completely destroy their economy, entire areas laid waste, farming stopped in major fertile areas, exports blocked, infrastructure destroyed, countless refugees. Russia has only had to battle sanctions and they've gotten around them to a significant extent - their country virtually untouched. It's obvious what would happen.
More immediately: Ukraine is a much better run army, better soldiers, stronger morale and even with fewer numbers Russia has been unable to defeat them. However, [u]when you run out of ammunition you run out of fight[/u]. Ukraine has had an invading army almost completely destroy their economy, entire areas laid waste, farming stopped in major fertile areas, exports blocked, infrastructure destroyed, countless refugees. Russia has only had to battle sanctions and they've gotten around them to a significant extent - their country virtually untouched. It's obvious what would happen.
revenant · F
@Abstraction I am hearing the opposite actually but the optics are not good. Ukraine is not the strong party at all.
Abstraction · 61-69, M
@revenant The opposite to which thing that I said?
- What I said about Putin is in the public record. It is substantially evidenced by their hasty conversion of occupied territories to being part of Russia and their systematic destruction of Ukrainian cultural and historical centres.
- If you think Russia is winning I have no idea what source believes that. Not even the Russians do. Their invasion was catastrophically managed. They took ground until the Ukrainians received outside military equipment to match - and to some extent outmatch. The record of Russian failures, the current state of the war is not even secret. They pushed forward recently a small amount in Bakhmut at massive cost. One town.
- The damage to Ukraine is a matter of record.
- That Russia has managed to get around sanctions to some extent - largely thanks to India, China, Turkey and a few others - is a matter of public record.
I think your sources are victims of propaganda. This is not an isolated conflict with no-one present to report. It's highly public from every view including satellite. Which part of what I said do you need verification for?
Russia began this and could stop now. Ukraine cannot.
- What I said about Putin is in the public record. It is substantially evidenced by their hasty conversion of occupied territories to being part of Russia and their systematic destruction of Ukrainian cultural and historical centres.
- If you think Russia is winning I have no idea what source believes that. Not even the Russians do. Their invasion was catastrophically managed. They took ground until the Ukrainians received outside military equipment to match - and to some extent outmatch. The record of Russian failures, the current state of the war is not even secret. They pushed forward recently a small amount in Bakhmut at massive cost. One town.
- The damage to Ukraine is a matter of record.
- That Russia has managed to get around sanctions to some extent - largely thanks to India, China, Turkey and a few others - is a matter of public record.
I think your sources are victims of propaganda. This is not an isolated conflict with no-one present to report. It's highly public from every view including satellite. Which part of what I said do you need verification for?
Russia began this and could stop now. Ukraine cannot.