What do you think about NATO offering to withdraw nukes from Europe in exchange for ending the Ukraine invasion?

The ridiculous question above was asked on Quora (quora.com) and the answer below was offered by quoran Alan Taylor. I love his answer and support it 100%.

How about this? The West will agree to lift all its sanctions against Russia as soon as Russia does the following:

1) Removes all its troops and agents from Ukrainian soil, including the Donbas and Crimea

2) Returns to Ukraine all the people that have been relocated into Russia since February 24, including the children

3) Releases all prisoners of war currently in Russian custody

4) Agrees to pay reasonable reparations to Ukraine out of its assets seized by Western banks

5) Denounces the statehood of the Donetsk People’s Republic and the Luhansk People’s Republic and formally recognizes such territories as oblasts of a sovereign Ukraine

6) Completely denuclearizes, allowing UN agents to inspect, remove, and insure the safe disposal of all Russian nuclear warheads

7) Renounces nuclear weapons and agrees to unfettered UN inspections of all Russian nuclear facilities to insure that Russia never attempts to re-nuclearize

8) Surrenders its seat on the UN security council

That sounds like a good plan to me.

Me too. Number two is especially important to me. Thousands (maybe tens of thousands) of non-combatant civilians have been involuntarily "depopulated" from Ukraine and moved to labor camps in Russia. This crime against humanity must be reversed.

Number six and seven are necessary because no country in the history of the world has threatened nuclear war as often or to the extent that Russia has in 2022. They can no longer be allowed to possess such weapons.

Your thoughts?

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Yulianna · 26-30, F

🇺🇦🌻🇺🇦 this deserves thought? it would be more productive to read the fairy tales of Grimm!

sarabee1995 · 26-30, F

@Yulianna Well, having read the Grimm Brothers' Fairy Tales and found them to be quite a productive use of my time, I don't disagree! ;)

But seriously Yulia ... we must state for the world our intentions in this conflict. From my perspective, this is a good start. When Russia is ready to end this conflict, they can start here.

Of course, these decisions are made well above my pay grade. 🤷‍♀️

Yulianna · 26-30, F

@sarabee1995 🇺🇦❤️🇺🇸 i am not sure about this. yes, it is important to know our objectives, but in a war of uncertainty, when the enemy trades on his ability to change his apparent objectives at any time, to declarevictory and say, basically, ok, shift me if you can, and who is willing to threaten nuclear war, energy war and food war, maybe it is better to keep our objectives unclear.

most of our thinking is that putin will resort to tactical nuclear weapons if he is facing military defeat on the ground. he relies on the west, US in particular, to refrain from a nuclear response. he will see any threat as another Obama red line... cross at your peril! oh, there's no peril!

so... what do we achieve by telling him, our objective is his total defeat and humiliation?

sarabee1995 · 26-30, F

@Yulianna We achieve this: The automatic and complete rejection of a Russian withdrawal of all but Donbas and Crimea with a claim of victory and ceasefire. No. That will not do it.

Yulianna · 26-30, F

@sarabee1995 we know this, but we also know that putin does not care that we know. he will declare victory when he wants, when he knows the immediate cost of further aggression is too high.

he will consolidate, wait for those 100K Korean andd10K Syrian supermen to arrive, and relaunch offensive.

meanwhile, organise fake referendums in Donbas oblasts and recognise the "new republics". pledge to defend them with nuclear weapons. and most of the world will do nothing.

room101 · 51-55, M

@sarabee1995 It sounds good on paper............erm, on a screen. However, I have to agree with @Yulianna, it's all a fairy tale that will never happen. Even worse, it broadcasts intentions and objectives. Both of which will galvanise Russians. Not good.