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What are realistic ways to end the ukraine war ?

i mean by now we can pretty much all agree that a military victory of russia isnt gonna happen and even if they should take kiev there is no way the ukraine would surrender.
so that is out of the question...

there is the possibility of russia just genociding all ukraines but if they go that far there will be international intervention... there is already 7 NATO countries that are willing to interdere in the war.

russia just going home and pretending this never happend... well the propaganda is strong and people even doubt the moonlanding.. maybe an option.

russia overthrowing the putin cronies and setting off a civil war in russia... well its an option.


so you see these are 4 scenarios that all dont seem every likely... so anyone got an idea how this can be solved ?
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SW-User
My opinion is, Putin is looking for a way to withdraw troops without losing face.

He will need to claim victory in regards to his pretence to invade - so that would be demilitarisation and "de-nazification" of Ukraine... whatever that means.

If he and Zelenskyy can agree some level of demilitarisation, and an agreement for Ukraine to remain neutral between Russia and NATO, then Putin could feasibly call this a victory back at home.

But to everyone else in the world, he has cemented who he really is for the rest of time; a maniacal war criminal. He has no redeeming qualities.
Madgirl · 26-30, F
@SW-User yeah the world wont just stop the embargoes cause russia goes home. there are to many bridges burnt
SW-User
@Madgirl Agreed - personally I feel we need to maintain these sanctions until Putin is ousted. I have empathy for regular Russian civilians who play no role in what's happening, but we can't pretend like everything is okay when Putin is finished with Ukraine.