South Africa, My country, My home❤

@akindheart ok, so right there you can tell that story doesn't make sense? Black and white but not mixed (which I imagine is what a lighter skinned black would be?) Anyone can make those claims out if frustration, but on the face of it that statement doesn't make sense.

@DarthInvader it made perfect sense to me. there is still discrimination over there.

@akindheart Discrimination exists everywhere, but the claim that only whites and blacks are being hired doesn’t reflect reality. If systemic racism is the issue, why would it exclude mixed-heritage people but still employ both whites and blacks? That doesn’t add up

@DarthInvader would be a coloured person. Apparently in the past we were not white enough and now we not black enough. We are being discriminated against when it comes to jobs in our beautiful country, unfortunately that is one of the issues we face. Still I love my country❤

@3timesalady I'm not here to dismiss your experience, but this is where the picture doesn't add up. A quick glance at the statistics in south Africa shows that whites remain ahead of every other group in South Africa by almost every measurable indicator, income, employment, education, and living standards. The group doing worst is not those of mixed heritage but black South Africans. This suggests that much of what drives these claims is perception rather than reality, in the same way Donald Trump peddles the baseless myth of a white genocide. The real failure it seems to me, lies with the South African government, which has done little to build a society where people see one another as fellow citizens instead of permanent rivals in a zero-sum contest.

@DarthInvader Well all you have to do in Cape Town is go to any retaill store or public office, hospital and you will get the real picture. We see it everyday.

I honestly don't know where statistics are coming from or how do they compile the numbers, but it's not the experience of the ordinary person on the street

@3timesalady I'm not sure what I'm supposed to see in Cape Town. That poverty exists among mixed people? Personally I wouldn't know. There are light skin black people and I know there are people of mixed heritage that look dark. But again, I have told you about stats and you returned with perceptions, which is fair, perception drive politics, but again, the people doing the worst overall, according to stats are the black people of south Africa, not those of mixed heritage, or would you feel better if mixed people were doing better while your fellow black people remained behind? Because, for fear of repeating myself, that's exactly what the stats say.

I understand Cape Town is one city. To my understanding it is run by the party called Democratic Alliance which is a predominantly white party although it claims to represent all groups. Yet there is a burgeoning cape independence movement away from the rest of the country, which is run by the black government called the ANC. So on which side are those of mixed heritage if the claim is that both whites and black conspire against them? To my understanding, the Cape independence movement isn't even led by a person of mixed heritage but a white individual.

This again reflects a failure to unite as citizens. A house divided can never stand, and that seems to be one of the key reasons SA is failing in many areas.


Anyway, you know more than I. I can only go off data where it comes to sone of these claims.

@DarthInvader I just think we all just want equal opportunity, but because the past have to be rectify some measures had to be put in place. The average person don't look at the overall picture, they look at what they are experiencing and what they are seeing. If I walk in a store and I see 20 out of 30 employees are black or I walk into a hospital and I see only black nursing staff, what will my reality be? Our desire is not to be in the majority when it comes to the workplace, all we want is to see equality, that's all❤

@3timesalady fair enough

@DarthInvader i was sitting in the concourse minding my own business. this lady was sitting next to me and she told me that unprovoked. who am i to question what she says but i did see in the news that discrimination is an issue there.

@DarthInvader because they are mixed race???? stop arguing ...

@akindheart If there is discrimination, it's likely towards the blacks. They may have political power but economic power remains with the white minority

@DarthInvader no i thiink Mandela solved the black issue but not the mixed race problem. it was pretty obvious in the airport who was working and who was not.

@akindheart
Without context, have no clue what you a referencing here. I'll have you know I'm somewhat familiar with the stats as they relate to South Africa, so I'm not just babbling or taking people at their word. People have grievances across the globe that doesn't mean every claim they make is true.

@akindheart Black people in SA still make up most of the impoverished class by far.

@DarthInvader It doesn't appear to me to be a matter of discrimination but governmental inefficiencies which are rife in South Africa. How those inefficiencies are felt at a local community level may feel like discrimination because the South African government has failed to unify the different groups. Look up the stats. Black South Africans have the worst outcomes of all the people there.

@DarthInvader
I hope you are aware South Africa is 75 - 80 percent black. I don't know what you were expecting to see there. In fact many mixed people look black and many black people have lighter skin, how you'd know which is which baffles me.

@DarthInvader actually i was minding my own business waiting for my flight. a light skinned black lady told me that she was not able to get the jobs. so there. all i canoffer.

@DarthInvader my black friends call them Bright...light mixed race.