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Will Russia ever be willing to leave Ukraine alone?

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JSul3 · 70-79
Putin has vowed to reclaim lands lost when the Soviet Union fell.

He has no plans to end the war in Ukraine. He will continue to bomb them into oblivion until he is stopped.
ididntknow · 56-60, M
@JSul3 who’ll stop America ? You’re just repeating, the mainstream media narrative
JSul3 · 70-79
@ididntknow So tell me, what is Putin's plan?

I wish Trump supported Zalenskyy and Ukraine as much as he supports war criminal Netanyahu.
ididntknow · 56-60, M
@JSul3 putins plan, is to stop America and the west, doing a regime change operation, just like they’re dong in Iran, so that America can get its grunt little hands on Russian wealth, the gold, the oil, the gas, the rare earth minerals, but I’m afraid, Russia is too strong for them, what do you believe, that Russia wants to take over Ukraine, then then whole of Europe, that’s just a narrative, dreamt up by the west, to get the useful idiots on side,look at the size of Russia, why would it want Ukraine and Europe, think for yourself, stop sucking up, all the propaganda
JSul3 · 70-79
@ididntknow Putin has said his goal was to reclaim hands for Russia.

Once again....You didn't know

Now you know.
ididntknow · 56-60, M
@JSul3 I’ll ask again, do you know anything about the history of Ukraine, especially around 2014 onwards, clearly you don’t, you pick, bits off the news, and pretend you are educated on the subject
JSul3 · 70-79
@ididntknow I am well versed into the history of Ukraine.
Ukraine became a sovereign nation on August 24, 1991.

Putin invaded this sovereign nation.

You didn't know?

Now you know.
ididntknow · 56-60, M
@JSul3 you actually missed a lot out, you need to do some learning,
JSul3 · 70-79
@ididntknow Again....who invaded who?
Putin invaded Ukraine. Ukraine did not line their border with troops, preparing for an invasion of Russia....Putin lined the border with troops and invaded Ukraine.

Now You Know.
ididntknow · 56-60, M
@JSul3 you can’t pick a moment in time, and start from there, 😂 i can see, I’m wasting my time with you, you dou don’t have enough knowledge, to put up a good argument, just go and live with your ignorance, be happy
JSul3 · 70-79
@ididntknow Putin invaded a sovereign nation.

How do you square that?
DarthInvader · 36-40, M
@JSul3 So too is Cuba sovereign, yeah? Perhaps China and Russia should be allowed to place weapons systems there that could decapitate US leadership in single digits minutes?
JSul3 · 70-79
@DarthInvader Cuba is indeed a sovereign nation.

I suggest there would be discussions were China or Russia to place those systems in Cuba.

We had this discussion, remember the Cuban Missile Crisis?
An agreement was reached.
US removed some weapons from Turkey and pledged not to invade Cuba. Russia removed their weapons from Cuba.

Ukraine has no nukes. They removed them as part of The Budapest Memorandum.

Ukraine committed to full disarmament, including strategic weapons, in exchange for economic support and security assurances from the United States and Russia.

Russia agreed to never invade Ukraine.
Putin is a war criminal and a liar.
DarthInvader · 36-40, M
@JSul3
Russia agreed to never invade Ukraine. Putin is a war criminal and a liar.

Putin didn't sign the Budapest memorandum.

The Budapest memorandum was contingent on Ukraine remaining neutral.

Thirdly, the Budapest memorandum is not la legally binding document.

Fourth, the country that first broke the Budapest memorandum was, drumroll please, the United states of America when it violated clause three which is effectively a no foreign interference clause, by funding a whole colour revolution.
JSul3 · 70-79
@DarthInvader

"Thirdly, the Budapest memorandum is not la legally binding document."

Sad but true....but Ukraine gave up their nukes.

Russia breached Budapest memorandum in 2014 with its annexation of Ukraine's Crimea. As a response, the US and the UK provided Ukraine with financial and military assistance, and imposed economic sanctions on Russia, while ruling out "any direct interventions to avoid a direct confrontation with Russia".