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David ben gurions own words

Why should the Arabs make peace? If I was an Arab leader I would never make terms with Israel. That is natural: we have taken their country. Sure, God promised it to us, but what does that matter to them? Our God is not theirs. We come from Israel, it's true, but two thousand years ago, and what is that to them? There has been anti-Semitism the Nazis, Hitler, Auschwitz, but was that their fault? They only see one thing: we have come here and stolen their country. Why should they accept that?

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YourMomsSecretCrush · M

They attack Israel and then cry foul when Israel attacks back. Dont poke the bear and then act surprised when the bear tears you to shreds.

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Guitarman123 · 31-35, M

@YourMomsSecretCrush Israel been attacking since the late 1940s. Between 47 and 49 they destroyed 400 Palestinian villages

YourMomsSecretCrush · M

@Guitarman123 hell, they have been fighting for a couple thousand years. they might stop fighting for awhile, but, they always seem to go back. they seem destined to destroy each other.

SamInAZ · 41-45, M

@Guitarman123 Look up what the flag looked like before & during WW2. Yes, they called it Palestine...but it still featured the Star of David. Palestinians are a made up ethnicity, they are claiming to be related to the biblical Philistines. While also claiming to be of Abraham...both can't be true.

Guitarman123 · 31-35, M

@SamInAZ Palestinian are a real people who are also Muslim's

SamInAZ · 41-45, M

@Guitarman123 The people who call themselves "Palestinians" are simply arabs. Arabs do not hail from that part of the region. Arafat made up the idea of arabs there calling themselves Palestinians. They came there from Jordan for the most part ..which is not where arabs originate from either.

Guitarman123 · 31-35, M

@SamInAZ r they are still innocent people. Israel didnt become a state till after the war. Palestinians were under English rule beforehand

SamInAZ · 41-45, M

@Guitarman123 there were still jews there too. The jews & muslim arabs got a long quite well before Israel was established there.

Guitarman123 · 31-35, M

@SamInAZ not prior to and during ww2

SamInAZ · 41-45, M

@Guitarman123 yes. Prior to WW2. The flag of Palestine had a big fat gold Star of David on it even before the state of Israel was established.

Guitarman123 · 31-35, M

@SamInAZ Palestine then was known as mandatory Palestine

SamInAZ · 41-45, M

@Guitarman123 Yes, The Mandate of Palestine. And there were jews there.

Guitarman123 · 31-35, M

@SamInAZ their wasn't. Purely Palestinians who are arabs

SamInAZ · 41-45, M

@Guitarman123 wrong. Have you ever heard of the Irgun?

Guitarman123 · 31-35, M

@SamInAZ a terrorist organisation that hated the English and Palestinians

SamInAZ · 41-45, M

@Guitarman123 yes. And it existed before Israel became a state...because there were jews that never left the land.

Guitarman123 · 31-35, M

@SamInAZ and like israel later, were nationalists

SamInAZ · 41-45, M

@Guitarman123 all parties involved in this conflict are nationalist. Including the Palestinians. Not really useful to point out.

Guitarman123 · 31-35, M

@SamInAZ Palestinians simply want liberation from occupation

SamInAZ · 41-45, M

@Guitarman123 no...they consider that land to be theirs. They believe Allah gave it to them, they are nationalist.

Guitarman123 · 31-35, M

@SamInAZ Israelis believe god promised them the land.

SamInAZ · 41-45, M

@Guitarman123 I know. They are both nationalist. It's a land struggle.

SamInAZ · 41-45, M

@Guitarman123 I should let you know I am not one of these pro-Israel type of right wingers. My positions on it are purely from a disinterested standpoint...I used to be a big Zionist though, very long time ago.

Guitarman123 · 31-35, M

@SamInAZ never suspected you were. I simply can't defend an apartheid system

SamInAZ · 41-45, M

@Guitarman123 I was just letting you know so you don't mistake me for someone that will make pro-Israel arguments out of support for them.

Guitarman123 · 31-35, M

@SamInAZ theirs even orthodox jews who are anti israel

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