Ever heard of a false flag operation?

@Diotrephes I think that is their excuse but in fact their religion teaches them that only they were born with souls. Anyone who is not one of them is of no real value or consequence. They can kill the other person and have no more significance than killing a mouse. I think the teaching of Jesus "you must be born again" is a clear repudiation of their teaching. Simply born of a certain ethnicity is not of significance in the eyes of God. You must be born again/born from above which has nothing to do with what the ethnicity of your mother or father.

@hippyjoe1955 The Old Testament God hated people for what their ancestors did up to ten generations ago. He was not forgiving even if the decendants were good people. Ezekiel changed that and said that people are only responsible for their own actions, not for what other people did.

@Diotrephes Yes I have had some people think that they were cursed because of the sins of their fathers. It took a long time and a lot of work to convince them otherwise.

@BritishFailedAesthetic and this is where I politely say good bye

@AthrillatheHunt did your confession result in repentance? It is not words but actions that count. Believe and be Baptised and go to work in the Kingdom. The fruits of the Spirit are summarised as a changed heart.

@AthrillatheHunt Well I tried.

Look at the fruits of Israel- is Palestinian civilians crying and arguing for food a war decreed by God?

@ekwalizur Israel is getting more and more desperate as the world starts abandoning its love for Israel. However I was on a thread on a different sight and the rabid insane level of support for Israel because some Palestinian supporter was accused of killing..... It was nuts! Oh BTW Oswald didn't kill Kennedy. Jack Ruby who killed Oswald- his real name was Rubenstein. Isn't is amazing how his name became Americanised just in time.....

@ekwalizur So how many COVID shots did you take before you came to the conclusion that powerful interests wanted to kill you? I used to laugh at a friend of mine because he was constantly spouting "Jewish conspiracies". I have since had my eyes opened and can see that while not all Jews are evil or bad or should be shunned, there is an element there that can not be denied. You are not a Christian so you likely never heard of the Scofield Bible. It is a heretical study Bible published in the first decade of the 20 century. It took the evangelical Christians by storm. Everyone who went to church had one. It was so handy. Not only did it have the words of the Bible it also had an explanation of the words of the Bible. Funny thing (not funny) it had some very evil teachings in it. Christians didn't pick up on it because it had the words of the Bible. It basically paved the way for Christian Zionism and the undying support for Israel. Even today there are churches who worship the state that calls itself Israel. I was in one less than a year ago. It had the Israeli flag on the pulpit. Its prayers were all for the betterment of Israel and it didn't care that the largest population in Gaza were Christians. Of course we know what Israel is doing to Gaza. One of Israel's politicians said that Israel should kill Gazan babies.

@AthrillatheHunt I dunno about the JFK murder but I do know that he had enemies in Israel. Powerful enemies who wanted LBJ to take over. Many if not most scholars now hold that JFK was killed by Mossad.

@hippyjoe1955 that’s a fresh new take

@AthrillatheHunt It is rapidly gaining acceptance. JFK was about to reveal the Israeli influence in the US within a week after he was shot and killed. Coincidence?