Will the ceasefire in Gaza hold?
Or will the Muslims “muck” it up again by firing rockets at Israel 🇮🇱?
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NerdyPotato · M
514Kra · 22-25, F
@NerdyPotato You have that wrong! Don’t listen to proIslamist propaganda think about the situation. Israel is the only democracy in the Middle East, surrounded by belligerent regimes that hate Jews, so in order to dissuade the Arabs pushing them into the sea they have a policy of extreme reaction to any provocation. It works!
EagerDaddy · 46-50, M
@NerdyPotato What about the ceasefire between Hamas and Israel existing before the October 7 massacre? Despite continuous firing of rockets at Israel, it stood. Till Hamas bluntly broke it, nota bene at a sacred Jewish day, Simchat Torah. Like 50 year before 6 Arab armies attacked Israel at Yom Kippur. And Israel still answered to requests to respect the ramadan in Gaza, in 2024...
NerdyPotato · M
@EagerDaddy what about the illegal Israeli settlements that kept expanding long before that? Hamas honored the deal at first while Israel never stopped invading Gaza and West Bank.
EagerDaddy · 46-50, M
@NerdyPotato There were no illegal settlements in Gaza. Israel only invaded Gaza (and withdrew!) to stop the continuous firing of rockets from Gaza into Israel. The Westbank has nothing to do with this, nor was it part of the ceasefire: PA and Hamas kill each other.
NerdyPotato · M
@EagerDaddy I'll consider this another case of two different timelines crossing paths then, because in the timeline where I live there are many illegal settlements and Gaza wasn't just invaded, it was turned into an apartheid state.
EagerDaddy · 46-50, M
@NerdyPotato This is my last message to you, as you clearly live in a different, very prejudiced, reality.
Israel left Gaza in 2005, even taking the graves with them, and transfered the power to the Palestinian Authority. 2 years later there was a complete civil war between PA and Hamas, and Hamas took the power. If Gaza is an Apartheid State, it is due to Hamas.
The only times Israeli soldiers were in Gaza, was to try stopping the hostilities towards Israel and then they left.
Bye!
Israel left Gaza in 2005, even taking the graves with them, and transfered the power to the Palestinian Authority. 2 years later there was a complete civil war between PA and Hamas, and Hamas took the power. If Gaza is an Apartheid State, it is due to Hamas.
The only times Israeli soldiers were in Gaza, was to try stopping the hostilities towards Israel and then they left.
Bye!
NerdyPotato · M
@EagerDaddy Israel didn't even exist in 205 in my reality, and Hamas certainly didn't set up checkpoints controlled by Israeli soldiers. If Israel only went in and out briefly in your world, we clearly live in entirely different timelines and I can't comment on what's happening in yours. So enjoy your day.
EagerDaddy · 46-50, M
@NerdyPotato typo...2005
NerdyPotato · M
@EagerDaddy ok, that still doesn't change that Israel never left and did a whole lot more in my timeline though. Enjoy the relatively peaceful version in yours. 👍
LeopoldBloom · M
@NerdyPotato Hamas broke the last cease fire on Oct. 7, 2023.
Israel extracted the settlers and left Gaza in 2005. The blockade was imposed the following year in response to Hamas' election and their use of the area as a staging ground for attacks. Hamas was not satisfied with Gaza; they want the entire area "from the river to the sea" which you would know if you bothered to listen to them, instead of whitewashing by their apologists.
Calling Gaza an "apartheid state" distorts the meaning of the word just to apply it meaninglessly to Israel. Palestinians are not Israeli citizens, so apartheid never applied. They're also the same race as Israeli Jews, and apartheid refers to the oppression of one race by another. Hence "gender apartheid" and other qualifiers.
Just curious, how would you solve this conflict, ensuring that both groups are able to exercise self-determination and live in security?
Israel extracted the settlers and left Gaza in 2005. The blockade was imposed the following year in response to Hamas' election and their use of the area as a staging ground for attacks. Hamas was not satisfied with Gaza; they want the entire area "from the river to the sea" which you would know if you bothered to listen to them, instead of whitewashing by their apologists.
Calling Gaza an "apartheid state" distorts the meaning of the word just to apply it meaninglessly to Israel. Palestinians are not Israeli citizens, so apartheid never applied. They're also the same race as Israeli Jews, and apartheid refers to the oppression of one race by another. Hence "gender apartheid" and other qualifiers.
Just curious, how would you solve this conflict, ensuring that both groups are able to exercise self-determination and live in security?
NerdyPotato · M
@LeopoldBloom I'm not even going to correct the lies there anymore. I would stop the genocide (it's not a "conflict") by holding Israel accountable. They clearly don't care about court orders, but the very least we could do is no longer supply them with weapons, and maybe apply financial sanctions.
On a side note: I don't understand how so many Americans hate to see their tax money go to healthcare and education, but encourage it going to the targeted murder of women and children who have no beef in this at all.
On a side note: I don't understand how so many Americans hate to see their tax money go to healthcare and education, but encourage it going to the targeted murder of women and children who have no beef in this at all.
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NerdyPotato · M
@EagerDaddy we must be living in different timelines indeed, because there have been court orders in mine.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Africa%27s_genocide_case_against_Israel
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Africa%27s_genocide_case_against_Israel