Many countries have been in war. But what are recent historical examples of countries that haven't been held to the same moral standards as Israel?

@Northwest

[quote]I also feel compelled to note that we did not gift the Saudis $15B in ammo, to murder Yemeni children. [/quote]

Trump certainly did when he was president as the weapon sold by the U.S. to the Saudis was used on a school bus that killed 51 civilians including children in 2018. Not giving Saudi an arms deal didn’t stop them from blocking aid either. The damage was already done at that point.

@Puppycat23 Your question was:

[quote]But what are recent historical examples of countries that haven't been held to the same moral standards as Israel?[/quote]

@Northwest

And Saudi Arabia wasn’t held to that same standard. Was Saudi Arabia sent to the ICJ by another country who didn’t accept what the country did? You lied when stating that the U.S. never sent Saudi Arabia weapons to kill Yemeni children when Trump did when he was president and they used the weapons given to them that killed Yemeni children. And if Trump is back in office this November or a Republican ends up POTUS in the near future, they’ll just restart the weapons deal with the Saudis. So cut the bs.

@Puppycat23 did saudi arabia or ethiopia sign the genocide traty?

Edit - an honest question - looking it up it seems both did.

@trollslayer during or after the war?

@Puppycat23 which war, the treaty was signed by both countries prior to 1950.

@Northwest exactly. Any other country that has broken international law like israel has the past 75 years we would probably impose sanctions on, or at least not sold weapons to.

@trollslayer

[quote]Which war[/quote]

The Tigray War and Saudi Arabia’s intervention in the Yemeni war.

@trollslayer [quote]exactly. Any other country that has broken international law like israel has the past 75 years we would probably impose sanctions on, or at least not sold weapons to.[/quote]

The OP, in addition to accusing me of lying, for saying something, when in fact, she lies, because that is opposite to what I said, is going for a strawman as well.

For starters, Israel is in the unique position with the US, being the only country that receives unconditional military taxpayer fully paid for Israel receives, and smacks of the "if you criticize Israel, then you're an anti-semit", echoed by some of the responses.

The strawman, is that 1) Saudi Arabia does not receive aid from the US, 2) Saudi Arabia WAS sanctioned by the US, specifically the Obama administration, and the Biden administration, and both administration cut Saudi's arms supplies (paid for by the Saudis), in response to them bombing civilians.

Trump re-instated it, in between.

So, on all counts, the OP is lying (to use her terminology).

And the last part is the Ethiopia war that killed hundreds of thousands. None of the warring factions receive US $s for arms, and these factions are not governments.

@Northwest

[quote]The OP, in addition to accusing me of lying, for saying something, when in fact, she lies, because that is opposite to what I said, is going for a strawman as well.[/quote]

To say "I also feel compelled to note that we did not gift the Saudis $15B in ammo, to murder Yemeni children" When Trump resumed arming the Saudis during his presidency as stated in your old and new reply, with weapons that ended up killing Yemeni children means you were lying about it. The U.S. did in fact sell Saudi Arabia weapons that were used on Yemeni civilians while Trump was president. That's not using terminology that's calling you out on your lie.

[quote]Trump re-instated it, in between.

And he supplied Saudi Arabia weapons.

@Northwest My understanding of the original post was that it was for examples of a country being held to the same moral standards - and you provided an example. Trump changing course for 4 years does not negate the fact that they were held to the same moral standard.

@trollslayer @Northwest

[quote]Trump changing course for 4 years does not negate the fact that they were held to the same moral standard. [/quote]

And yet no country took Saudi Arabia to court for their crimes. So technically they were not held to the same moral standard.

@Puppycat23 well, Saudi Arabia was sanctioned by the US, Israel was not. Actual punishment was invoked. So in that sense, they were held to a higher moral standard, considering the ICJ ruling against Isreal was non binding.

@trollslayer AIPAC is spending a ton of money, to intimidate and use emotional blackmail, to prevent any public criticism of the Netanyahu government, and the results are starting to show. In that, they stand united with the people trying to re-elect Trump.

@trollslayer Russia has also been sanctioned but that’s not stopping Putin from attacking Ukraine. The “punishment” didn’t work and South Africa isn’t taking Russia to the ICJ to demand a ceasefire and find them guilty of genocide like they did with Israel, and the war between Russia and Ukraine has been going for 2 years now, so what’s your point? You thought you got somewhere but you didn’t.

@Puppycat23 which is worse, sanctions, or trial in a toothless court? Keep playing the victim, see who gives a damn.

@Puppycat23 by your logic, sanctioning israel is more appropriate than taking them to court.

@trollslayer And by your logic sanctioning a country stops a war. 🥴

@Puppycat23 nope.