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War With Iran

Yesterday, the US and Israel launched a joint attack on Iran, killing Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamanei. This has been reported by both Israeli and Iranian news sources, so it's probably accurate as it's unlikely that both of them would be lying.

The Iranian regime has brutally oppressed its own people and has supported terrorist groups around the globe. That doesn't justify this attack although strategically the regime is the weakest it's been since 1979 and If there was going to be an attack, now was the time to do it.

The reasons given for the attack have been, to put it mildly, incoherent. In Israel's case, the reasons are clearer as Iran and Israel have essentially been engaged in a low-level war for decades, so this is just an escalation. On the US side, Trump missed a golden opportunity at his State of the Union speech last week to present the administration's case, yet he barely mentioned Iran even though plans for the war must have been well underway by then, and with the movement of battle groups toward Iran, the US' intentions were already obvious.

So we're left with vague pronouncements, which include neutralizing Iran's nuclear capabilities (didn't we do that last year?), stopping a major sponsor of terrorism (but why now and not any time since 1979?), and regime change to help the Iranian people after as many as 50,000 of them were slaughtered last month by their own government ("help is on the way"). The US doesn't have a great history of success with this latter goal. In Iran itself, the CIA overthrew the Mosaddegh government in 1953 and replaced it with the Shah, who was himself overthrown 25 years later and replaced with the current government. Getting rid of Saddam Hussein gave us ISIS, and getting rid of the Taliban gave us...the Taliban. There's no indication that there has been any preparation for who will run Iran if the mullahs are removed.

That in itself isn't a given. There is no "vice-Ayatollah" or anyone specifically designated to take over after Khamanei's death. The next Supreme Leader is chosen by the Assembly of Experts. Think of this as the board of directors of a company choosing the next CEO. The day-to-day government operations are overseen by the (nominally) popularly-elected President, currently Masoud Pezeshkian. If anything happens to Pezeshkian, his vice-president, Mohammed Reza Aref would take over. Similar to what happened in Venezuela when Maduro was removed (or kidnapped, depending on your opinion), government operations would continue with little change.

While it's not clear who will replace Khamanei, reportedly he was preparing one of his allies, Ali Larijani, to take over. Other possible replacements include Mohammed Mohammadi Golpayegani, head of the Supreme Leader's office; Mojtaba Khamanei, Ali Khamanei's son; and several others like Vahid Haghanian and Asghar Hejazi who hold leadership and policy positions. If the entire higher leadership is taken out or neutralized, the likeliest outcome is that the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) would take over in what would amount to rule by military junta.

The IRGC was established as a counterweight to the Iranian military, an ultra-nationalist organization intended to prevent a coup by military leaders. While the IRGC has been heavily involved in overseas operations, its main purpose is to protect the regime from its own military, and as we've seen over the past few months, it also suppresses any domestic opposition. You can think of the IRGC as a combination of the NSA, the CIA, and the Secret Service on steroids.

Reza Pahlavi, the son of the former Shah, is popular in the Iranian diaspora community, but has little meaningful support in Iran itself (protesters chanting "Javid Shah" (long live the Shah) don't count as "meaningful"). The regime has been very effective in crushing any popular opposition to it, to the point where there are no domestic leaders with the organization and resources to fill the gap if the government is removed. If the plan is to bring Mr. Pahlavi in with the expectation that he will be able to take over, this is unrealistic and doomed to failure.

The war is also extremely unpopular on both the left and the right in the US; its sole supporters appear to be the MAGA faithful who will support Trump no matter what he does, Iranian expats, and some Israel supporters. The opposition appears to be limited to complaining online, however. I'm old enough to have participated in the demonstrations prior to the outbreak of George W. Bush's Iraq War, the largest anti-war protests in US history that took place before a war started. So far, I haven't seen any protests at all against the current war. Part of this may be the speed at which everything has happened, as the lead-up to the Iraq War took well over a year. People might also be exhausted as there's only so much protesting they can do, what with No Kings, Israel/Gaza, and ICE. This is just the latest in a long line of outrages by the current administration. I haven't seen any protests over the Epstein Files either, and more people are probably more upset about those as pedophilia may be the one thing everyone agrees is bad.

Based on the war's unpopularity and the complete lack of even short-term planning, I'm predicting that, like the Venezuela action (and the 12-Day War in Iran last year), the current action will not continue for much longer, and regardless of the outcome, the administration will simply declare victory as they did in the previous actions, and go home. Trump has been described as an incurious man who is incapable of learning from his mistakes, but he has apparently learned from the failures of US military adventures since World War Two that prolonged wars are generally unsuccessful while short strikes at least avoid getting stuck in a quagmire and are quickly forgotten. Whether the current war is "successful" or not will, like everything else, depend on your opinion.
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Northwest · M
Here's an X post from the guy who was in charge of negotiations:

https://x.com/gothburz/status/2027852172923154714?s=48&t=IqiMmlul4MoSUf6eL1gciw

It's really a must read.

I disagree that Shah Jr. has the support of the Iranian Diaspora. His PR machine, joined by Netanyahu's PR machine, are creating that illusions, but the secular, progressive, Iranian Diaspora doesn't want the son of the guy who killed, tortured and imprisoned hundreds of thousands of Iranians, to be in charge.

Shah Jr. presents himself as a good choice to lead the country, while democracy is established. Whatever that means.

What Trump wants is to put his fossil fuel donors, and his family in charge of the world's second largest natural gas an oil reserves. What the CIA and MI6 did in 1953.

However, the likelihood of this turning into another civil war, Syria style, is pretty high. Israel is not going to have boots on the ground, and we won't either. Kuwait, Qatar, UAE, Saudi, may start participating in air raids, but they will not have boots on the ground either.

The selfish in me is thrilled the Ayatollahs who managed the groups established for the sole purpose of eliminating Jews, are now balls deep into their 72 virgins, but I am not thrilled this also means Netanyahu is Prime Minster for life, and the hillbillies of Israel are in charge forever.

So, yes, just like we did in the case of Syria, we will watch this from a distance, and "feel" for the people of Iran, and then go about our distractions.
ArishMell · 70-79, M
@Northwest A terrible state of affairs, and there is no real likelihood the Iranian regime will be toppled from within or without. It will likely have planned for situations like this, and opposition to it is not at all clear-cut.

Besides, just who can take over? Is there an organised, coherent opposition capable of running the country, and who won't be another target for Israel and America in turn?

At worst, a civil war ripe for exploiting by bandits like ISIS, or Russia and China, but whatever happens it will be the unfortunate Iranian population who suffers the worst.
@Northwest Most of the Iranian diaspora, at least in the US, are people who were doing pretty well under the Shah, and left in 1979. So they may be more genially disposed toward Pahlavi than you might think. However, that doesn't translate to support within Iran, although for younger people who didn't live through the Shah's reign, maybe Pahlavi sounds like an improvement over what they've had up to now.

I'd read that we were getting some very good concessions from the Iranians. I was hoping that the strategy of talking while positioning warships would get the desired results without our having to fire a shot - sort of a version of the mobster pointing a gun at a bandleader and telling him either his brains or his signature would be on the contract. Maybe Trump would come across as crazy enough to actually attack them, and that would be motivation enough. Apparently I was wrong.
Northwest · M
@LeopoldBloom

I was hoping that the strategy of talking while positioning warships would get the desired results without our having to fire a shot - sort of a version of the mobster pointing a gun at a bandleader and telling him either his brains or his signature would be on the contract. Maybe Trump would come across as crazy enough to actually attack them, and that would be motivation enough. Apparently I was wrong.

https://similarworlds.com/politics/5521207-It-Was-Within-Our-Reach-gothburz-status-2027852172923154714