@TheOneyouwerewarnedabout yeah but you’re not answering my question, how come other countries just poof they got it? While Iran has to enrich for decades and they still don’t have it.
@Ferise1 because they’re not allowed to have one.. they’re too loose.. just for clarity.. it bothers me that countries with weapons can tell others if they can or can’t also.. that’s weird as hell to me.. but I don’t run the world
That’s a very good and fair question — and the answer involves politics, technology, strategy, and history all at once. Let’s break it down clearly:
🧪 1. Enriching uranium is not the same as making a bomb
Enriching uranium is just the first step. For a nuclear bomb, a country needs: • Uranium enriched to 90% U-235 (called “weapons-grade”) • Advanced detonation systems • Warhead miniaturization (to fit it on a missile or aircraft) • Testing or simulation capacity to make sure it actually works
Iran enriches uranium mainly to civilian levels (3.67% or up to 20-60%), and has not crossed the 90% threshold in weaponized form — at least, not publicly or proven.
🏗 2. Iran may have the technical capability now — but not the bomb
• Experts believe Iran could “break out” and produce a weapon in months, if it decided to. • But building a deliverable, tested, reliable nuclear weapon takes years and a lot of secrecy, which is hard under international monitoring.
🌍 3. Political pressure and inspections slow things down
• Iran is under heavy international surveillance (IAEA, satellites, spies). • It signed the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT), promising not to make nuclear weapons. • When it gets close to crossing the line, countries (especially Israel and the U.S.) sabotage, sanction, or threaten war. • Example: Israel has allegedly assassinated nuclear scientists and cyberattacked Iranian facilities (like with the Stuxnet virus).
💣 4. Other countries “just have the bomb” because of history
Here’s how:
Country How They Got It Notes U.S. WWII (Manhattan Project) First-ever bomb Russia 1949, quickly after WWII With some espionage help UK & France 1950s Built independently China 1964 Built it after Soviet help, then split India 1974 Tested in secret, not an NPT member Pakistan 1998 Developed in response to India North Korea 2006 Left NPT and built one secretly Israel 1960s Never confirmed, but widely accepted
These countries either developed the bomb before global treaties, or outside of them, often secretly and quickly before anyone could stop them.
⚖ 5. Iran’s strategy: have the capability, not the weapon
Iran likely wants a “threshold status”: • Be close enough to making a bomb to deter enemies • But not actually cross the line — to avoid a massive war or full global sanctions • It’s a form of nuclear ambiguity (similar to what Israel has, but more constrained)
🧩 In short:
Iran doesn’t have a bomb because it’s extremely hard, heavily watched, and politically risky to build one — and they may prefer the leverage of almost having one without the consequences of actually using it.
Let me know if you want to explore how close Iran really is now, or why North Korea was able to break the rules.
@Ferise1 everything they’ve done has been top secret 300 feet underground.. And the complicit corrupt media gaslighting everyone how Iran isn’t doing anything… pinky swears 🤓
@TheOneyouwerewarnedabout yes but they still allow controls, because they want to be part of the global market, unlike North Korea, who don’t give a shit and I have nothing to lose.
Great — let’s dive into that. This is one of the most interesting contrasts in modern geopolitics.
🚨 Why North Korea has the bomb, but Iran doesn’t
🧱 1. North Korea built in total isolation and secrecy
• North Korea doesn’t care about the world economy or foreign investment like Iran does. • It was already cut off, so it had nothing to lose by breaking the rules. • They kicked out the UN inspectors in 2002, withdrew from the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT) in 2003, and tested their first bomb in 2006. • They built facilities deep underground or in remote mountain areas, making detection/sabotage much harder.
🏛 2. Iran is integrated into the world
• Iran wants access to global markets, foreign aid, and European diplomacy. • It’s been under intense inspection by the IAEA since the early 2000s. • Unlike North Korea, it hasn’t kicked out inspectors (not entirely), and it’s still part of the NPT. • It also has rivals like Israel and Saudi Arabia, which makes the region way more volatile if it gets the bomb.
In short: Iran still plays some part in the world order. North Korea chose to be an outlaw.
🔧 3. North Korea had help (especially from Pakistan)
• A.Q. Khan, a Pakistani nuclear scientist, sold nuclear technology and designs on a black market network. • North Korea allegedly got: • Centrifuge designs • Warhead blueprints • Uranium enrichment know-how
Iran also got some help from A.Q. Khan but not to the same extent — and they got caught earlier and sanctioned harder.
🚀 4. North Korea focused entirely on weapons — not civilian use
• North Korea made no effort to hide its military goal. Its enrichment was never about energy — it was always about bombs. • Iran, on the other hand, insists its program is for civilian nuclear energy and medical isotopes — which keeps it in a grey zone.
North Korea = no ambiguity. Iran = deliberately ambiguous.
💥 5. North Korea had a survival reason — regime security
• North Korea believes that nuclear weapons are the only reason the U.S. hasn’t invaded like in Iraq or Libya. • They saw what happened to Saddam Hussein and Muammar Gaddafi — both gave up their nuclear ambitions and were overthrown. • For them, the bomb is like an insurance policy against regime change.
Iran wants deterrence too, but also wants to avoid war and keep diplomacy alive.
🧨 6. North Korea tested bombs — Iran hasn’t
• North Korea has conducted six nuclear tests, showing they really have a working weapon. • Iran has zero tests, and most experts think they haven’t fully developed a bomb, though they may be close in theory.
Testing = global proof Not testing = strategic ambiguity
✅ Summary: Why North Korea succeeded
Factor North Korea Iran Treaty Status Left NPT Still in NPT Inspectors Kicked out Mostly allowed Sanctions Already isolated Wants relief Secrecy Total Constantly watched Foreign help Yes (Pakistan) Yes, but caught Goal Openly military Claims civilian Weapon tests Yes (6) None Political system Closed dictatorship Hybrid, with diplomacy
🎯 Final thought:
North Korea didn’t care what the world thought. Iran does — or at least, has more to lose. That’s why one has the bomb, and the other still doesn’t.
Would you like a simple timeline of Iran’s nuclear progress to see how close they actually are today?
@Ferise1 NK got a big buddy called CHYNA. They love their little proxy nut bag throwing missiles at random and threatening everyone… It causes instability But if push come to shove chyna would rope in rocket man.. not so much control over the ayatollah
