whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
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whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@Djc59 I didnt claim China was perfect. Everything rises and falls over time. Its just that China has solved the application of Keynsian economics, regarding providing everything the society needs to flourish for the longer term.. The problem with economics is always going to be people. They cant resist putting their finger on the scale to get a little more. That holds true for corruption. Or for trying to create more employment than society can provide. Now Keynes says its ok to go that extra yard for the common good. As long as you remember to pay the money you magicked into being back later. I guess you can see where I think the US went wrong here. And maybe China will too. But as long as they are manufacturing for the world and have trade surpluses with everyone, it doesnt matter so much..
In short, China is on the rise as America is diminishing. Sometime in the future the Chinese economy will mature, and then maybe the African continent will be next and China wont like it.. By then America will be something like France, or maybe Britain..😷
In short, China is on the rise as America is diminishing. Sometime in the future the Chinese economy will mature, and then maybe the African continent will be next and China wont like it.. By then America will be something like France, or maybe Britain..😷
Djc59 · 56-60, M
@whowasthatmaskedman I'm not that pessimistic. I do remember that prediction being popular about 20 years ago - but at this point, with the crashing Chinese population, the overcounting on housing, and the stalling growth, I don't think they'll ever surpass the US (and in fact will start to slip). Most recent estimates say that starts in the 30s, and they'll be much diminished in the 50s.
But we do have to find a way to deter a war this decade... or not lose it.
But we do have to find a way to deter a war this decade... or not lose it.
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@Djc59 We can certainly agree on that last point, while waiting to see what happens on the rest. My preference is to follow the money..As I see it, the only reason America still has any is because they keep printing it, without any adding of value to the economy to back it up. But like i said. We will see. If I am right, real employment will start to drop as soon as the interest rates are cut and inflation kicks in..If the Fed doesnt lift rates and deepen the recession that is either happening or about to happen, then hyperflation is really possible.. And thats all because other countries are selling down their T Bonds,, People dont want the $US like they did. There are a couple of really nasty side effects from that, which are outside the scope of this for now...😷
Djc59 · 56-60, M
I have to disagree with you. I get President Trump is rude, and I wish he weren't, especially in dealing with allies. But he's not wrong about Greenland. It's sad that others are offended - but he's right about what it can be in the defense of the West - both US and Europe, militarily and economically. And he's point of view is easily defendable morally speaking.
You're right that he sees it in real estate terms, but that's a positive, not a net negative.
Secondly, your description of Alaskan natives and their rights has the truth on its head. They benefit from indigenous rights that a lot of tribal peoples have, as well as full US rights. Yet a fairly significant portion of them refuse to benefit from it, and become wards of the state. That's sad but it's a simple fact - and the rest of the population have lost their patience with victim grievance. It's nonsense.
If Greenlander's want their own country - they can certainly be allowed that - but the idea that 65,000 people that have no loyalty to or been responsible for others - get to veto actions necessary for the millions in the west - is absurd, morally as well. Finally, they would benefit immensely in a deal with the US. They turn down the opportunity at their peril.
You're right that he sees it in real estate terms, but that's a positive, not a net negative.
Secondly, your description of Alaskan natives and their rights has the truth on its head. They benefit from indigenous rights that a lot of tribal peoples have, as well as full US rights. Yet a fairly significant portion of them refuse to benefit from it, and become wards of the state. That's sad but it's a simple fact - and the rest of the population have lost their patience with victim grievance. It's nonsense.
If Greenlander's want their own country - they can certainly be allowed that - but the idea that 65,000 people that have no loyalty to or been responsible for others - get to veto actions necessary for the millions in the west - is absurd, morally as well. Finally, they would benefit immensely in a deal with the US. They turn down the opportunity at their peril.
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Djc59 · 56-60, M
@FreeLittleBird Well I stand with freedom, prosperity, and the rights of all people - and that includes the US and western civilization as identified with Europe. In this case - I support the US position as the only morally defensible position.
FrugalNoodle · 46-50, M
val70 · 51-55
@Djc59 Oh gosh, you think really that the lack of stability that there was for seventy years won't be missed? That no European country, whatever small and such, will get angry and will even start redrawing relationships? You seem to think that Europeans are a lot more fan of America than they actually are
SunshineGirl · 36-40, F
Djc59 · 56-60, M
@SunshineGirl there was some wrong behavior to Native Americans, but would you just say it’s not an portrayal of it.
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