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CountScrofula · 41-45, M
Elessar · 31-35, M
@CountScrofula
Don't dismiss this kind of shìt.
not a serious one
Russia used to "joke" about invading Ukraine for 20 years, and even when there were the first signals they were beginning to amass their forces the general consensus was that they would've never actually invaded and that they were just provoking or preparing for a military exercise.Don't dismiss this kind of shìt.
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
@Elessar Though that is somewhat different.
Ukraine had spent the previous two decades with ever increasing divisions between pro-russian and pro western factions. After the annexation of Crimea, there had been an ongoing small scale war in the Donbas region.
And - though I'm strongly against Putin's invasion - there was an imperialist geopolitical rationale for Russia to invade Ukraine.
What trump wants is to make Canada (even more) subservient to the US in terms of trade relations.
Ukraine had spent the previous two decades with ever increasing divisions between pro-russian and pro western factions. After the annexation of Crimea, there had been an ongoing small scale war in the Donbas region.
And - though I'm strongly against Putin's invasion - there was an imperialist geopolitical rationale for Russia to invade Ukraine.
What trump wants is to make Canada (even more) subservient to the US in terms of trade relations.
Elessar · 31-35, M
@Burnley123 Oh don't worry a casus belli can always be forged. Especially when his supporters are known for accepting literally everything he'll throw at them, he could just say the country had gone too woke and needs to be taken for security reasons or even "freed", or some BS like that and they'd accept and reiterate it just fine.
I know it's unlikely and/or that he may find himself with a military coup if he goes through it, but it's still better be prepared even for an unlikely scenario than to be sorry. Putin actually invading Ukraine was considered equally unlikely too, until exactly the moment it happened.
I know it's unlikely and/or that he may find himself with a military coup if he goes through it, but it's still better be prepared even for an unlikely scenario than to be sorry. Putin actually invading Ukraine was considered equally unlikely too, until exactly the moment it happened.
CountScrofula · 41-45, M
@Elessar The issue is actual desire, right.
If the US wanted to annex Canada it would have tried in the past two hundred years.
The US' entire economic model is economic domination and that's already established. The US receives something like 90% of Canada's export trade.
Countries don't buy and sell goods between each other, they operate as fronts for private companies who actually rake in profits. That's already the case. There's nothing to be gained from it.
What would cause the US to invade Canada is if Canada suddenly switched off from being in the American sphere of influence to a rival power.
That's exactly what Ukraine did and why Russia invaded, and why they didn't invade previously - there was no need to.
If the US wanted to annex Canada it would have tried in the past two hundred years.
The US' entire economic model is economic domination and that's already established. The US receives something like 90% of Canada's export trade.
Countries don't buy and sell goods between each other, they operate as fronts for private companies who actually rake in profits. That's already the case. There's nothing to be gained from it.
What would cause the US to invade Canada is if Canada suddenly switched off from being in the American sphere of influence to a rival power.
That's exactly what Ukraine did and why Russia invaded, and why they didn't invade previously - there was no need to.
Elessar · 31-35, M
@CountScrofula All true, but that works so long as some assumptions are verified: hat the country acts in its self-interest, that the decision-making process is rational, and that what they consider in and out of their sphere of influence or rivals remains immutated. Trump's controversial because he breaches effectively all three. I think we're entering the scenario for why France wanted to have its own force de dissuasion independent feom NATO.
Also I'm referring to the 2014 invasion of Ukraine, not specifically 2022. The country wasn't under Russian influence since the collapse of the Soviet Union, and trying to maintain a neutral orientation still resulted in invasion. Of course now it's looking towards Europe, after being invaded not once but twice
Also I'm referring to the 2014 invasion of Ukraine, not specifically 2022. The country wasn't under Russian influence since the collapse of the Soviet Union, and trying to maintain a neutral orientation still resulted in invasion. Of course now it's looking towards Europe, after being invaded not once but twice