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Why is Canada euthanising the poor?

According to the most read article in Spectator Magazine 2022, since last year, Canadian law, in all its majesty, has allowed both the rich as well as the poor to kill themselves if they are too poor to continue living with dignity. In fact, the ever-generous Canadian state will even pay for their deaths. What it will not do is spend money to allow them to live instead of killing themselves.
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samueltyler2 · 80-89, M
Please cite the specific reference.
hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M
@samueltyler2 It is common knowledge that Canada has a MAID policy. My uncle was euthanized in January.
samueltyler2 · 80-89, M
@hippyjoe1955 i love when you say something is "common knowledge," and "everyone knows"! That is an interesting way to ignore the fact that you can't cite a specific citation. In this case the OP says there is a "most" read article, is that a typo for "must read?" And I simply asked for the citation so I can be informed!
hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M
@samueltyler2 And you want some sort of 'expert' to confirm what everyone else knows. Who is more foolish. The 'expert' is no more believable or reliable than the man on the street and you have no way of knowing if the expert is lying to you.
samueltyler2 · 80-89, M
@hippyjoe1955 as usual you have misread my comment, you are impossible. As to who to believe, I would have much more respect for sure meine who has studied a subject and is "generally accepted" as an expert, the best of both our worlds then. You show how foolish you are by simply arguing everyone about something, or more accurately, about everything.
hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M
@samueltyler2 As usual you are the clown thinking that somewhere there is some great arbiter of truth called an expert who shall forevermore declare that this is truth and that is not. How much evidence do you need to destroy your faith in such nonsense. Have you looked at the experts regarding covid? Maybe the Russian/Ukrainian war? Maybe climate change? Really you need to get over your silly idea about experts. They lie when it is convenient for them to lie.
samueltyler2 · 80-89, M
@hippyjoe1955 there you go again! All I asked for was the specific citation of the article. You have your agenda, which is totally based on nonsense. I get it, you are an angry person who refuses to see the forest for the trees.
Mathers · 61-69
The article was in The Spectator. @samueltyler2
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Mathers · 61-69
@samueltyler2

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/why-is-canada-euthanising-the-poor/
samueltyler2 · 80-89, M
@Mathers thanks I will take a look.
Ynotisay · M
@samueltyler2 When you read that article, coming from a conservative outlet and written by a Chinese assistant professor out of England, you'll see that Canada isn't killing the poor. They used a couple of example of people who applied for it. One woman went through it with, because she had allergies that were exasperated by her living situation and, it appears, didn't accept the help of others. It was bullshit title meant to create fear. Because of course it did.
Mathers · 61-69
That is just one article and there are hundreds of examples in that there are about 100,000 people who have been killed in Canada before their time. You are just one of those pathetic people who believe anything the liberals want you to@Ynotisay
Ynotisay · M
@Mathers Or, about 31,000 people have been euthanized since it went in to effect, the average age is 76 and the most common reason is cancer.
And you insult me? You couldn't take the fucking time to get the facts?
And before their time? They're terminal. Some people don't want to go through the pain when the outcome will be the same. And some don't want to put their families through the process. They want to die with dignity. You can't wrap your head around that, right?
You're not even Canadian, are you? Sit down dude. Your faux-outrage is lame. But your lack of humanity is crystal clear.
Mathers · 61-69
The number I got was 100,000 but anyway perhaps you will be the next@Ynotisay
samueltyler2 · 80-89, M
@Ynotisay it is a very difficult to read. I haven't gotten to looking up about the author and the magazine. As a physician, and former chair of my hospital's ethics committee we grappled with the issue of autonomy and if that includes the right to die. If he wants a correct, that some are so depressed because of their socio-economic situation, the solution isn't suicide. I always assume so that Canada had a more robust health and social care system than the US does, so the author's comments surprise me. I am sure there are outliers who do not get care for whatever reason.

As to the requirement that as person suffer from a terminal illness, that is a definition problem. So i do have difficulty with it. Someone has the right to a certain degree of dignity. That is also difficult to define.

The bottom line is that i do believe in a person's right to self termination. I agree with the author that cost should not be a factor in that.
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Mathers · 61-69
Sorry that was a careless statement but you’ve got the point. You might be the next smuggled into death row against your will because you’re too old@Ynotisay
Ynotisay · M
@samueltyler2 As I mentioned above, the average is 76 and the most common reason is cancer. I'll assume terminal. I personally wouldn't want to put others through my pain. This isn't available to people who are "feeling blue." So I agree. Dignity in death is just as important as dignity in life.
Mathers · 61-69
It’s alright when you’re saying that but there are people I know who are euthanised against their will because they’re in the way. Perhaps you will be in the way sometime and your family will want to get rid of you@Ynotisay
samueltyler2 · 80-89, M
@Mathers i do not see rust discussed in the article. Of course no one should suggest that. One of the reasons we require patient assent, proof that they are not coerced either from outside or because of incompetence, for sure everything from refusal of therapy to removal of vital signs sustaining therapy.
samueltyler2 · 80-89, M
@Mathers that is a very serious accusation! I hope it isn't true. If it was s, and you didn't do nothing too prevent it, then you are some what compliment in murder.
Mathers · 61-69
I couldn’t do anything. Not my country, but know it goes on in Belgium too @samueltyler2
samueltyler2 · 80-89, M
@Mathers you said you know of circumstances, that is why I said that if you did and just stood by, you are guilty. If you did not know personally, than please don't use terminology suggesting you do know directly.