@MethDozer One interesting thing. I searched the link. Not one mention of genocide. Why? Why is it that Joe Biden is now being referred to as genocide Joe? What about genocide George? Or genocide Barack? Or genocide Donald? Why?
@flipper1966 Well since you want to play smooth brain. Probably because of the three Presidents that were actually in office while we were there, the country hadn't spent decades trying to eradicate and starve the entire Afghan population in order to free up land to while already having thousands and thousands of square miles that the entire international community consideres stolen and unlawfully occupied.
@flipper1966 Genocide Joe is fitting in his treatment of Azerbaijan. Or at the very least ethnic cleansing Joe, seeing as he was fine with Azerbaijan ethnically cleansing Nagorno-Karabakh of its indigenous Armenian population.
@MethDozer No, I meant genocide. Did the U.S. commit genocide in Afghanistan against Afghans? The wiki article you reference doesn't mention the word genocide.
@flipper1966 I don't think he claimed they did. But you're using it to make a bad faith argument and trying to allegorically compare it to Gaza. That doesn't really work.
@basilfawlty89 The fact is that neither the civilian deaths in Afghanistan nor the civilian deaths in Gaza constitute genocide, but Israel is accused of genocide while the United States is not accused of genocide in Afghanistan despite the 70,000 Afghan civilian deaths.
@flipper1966 were deaths targeting men, women and children intentionally, making living conditions impossible for Afghans, destroying their infrastructure, cutting off basic needs and destroying cultural monuments?
@basilfawlty89 You mean like the Germans in Russia during World War 2? Why not call civilian deaths in wartime "genocide" any time it serves our purposes to call it a genocide? Does that sound like a plan? That's what the Russian government is currently doing. Sounds like what you're doing in the case of Gaza.
@flipper1966 Genocide has intention, works in stages and targets the ethnic group regardless of age, sex, gender, etc. Civilian deaths aren't the same.
Same with ethnic cleansing.
Or are you telling me, seeing as you love to use whataboutism, that throwing out Palestinian grandmothers out of their houses in the West Bank to make land for settlers from Europe and the US isn't ethnic cleansing?
@flipper1966 Oh Israel's actions over my lifetime sure look like attempts at genocide.. Their plan seems hell bent on ridding the area of any Palestinian Arab population.
@basilfawlty89 [quote]Genocide has intention, works in stages and targets the ethnic group regardless of age, sex, gender, etc. Civilian deaths aren't the same. [/quote]
The fact is that legally speaking the U.S. may have committed genocide in Afghanistan and the only reason the ICC has not prosecuted is because the U.S. derailed the prosecution.
No offence, but I tend to think cries of whataboutism emerge against anybody who makes a credible case that we're dealing with a double standard. You seem to bend facts and law when you argue that the U.S. did not commit genocide in Afghanistan just as you bend facts and law when you argue that Israel is committing genocide in Gaza.
