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Next time Germany 🇩🇪 you better listen to Saudi Arabia 🇸🇦

A Saudi fled to Germany in 2006 and Germany refused to hand him back to Saudi Arabia due to concerns for human rights and gave him the German nationality.
He worked in Germany as a doctor since 2006.
Because the guy is pro Israel, pro anti Islam (ex Muslim ) , pro Nazi Germany , supporter of Nitinyahu , friends with Tommy Robinson etc according to his social accounts
they turned a blind eye to Saudi requests.
Some say he was secretly a Muslim but pretending to be an atheist to commit an Islamic extremist lunatic attack.
That is actually a very valid point and in the future that might turn out to be the case as investigations go on.
However why did he wait for almost 20 years to commit such a crime ? I don’t think it’s religiously motivated i believe the man is genuinely either mentally ill, has drug problems, or just a genuine psycho like the regular daily mass shooters and stabbers done by cuckoo ppl of all religions and backgrounds
What is fascinating is the amount of Germans who are using the attack as a means to be racist to Saudi people including me (I’m a Saudi ) across social media
However it’s funny because :

1/ Saudi Arabia has a lower crime index and has a higher safety index than Germany .

2/ Saudi Arabia warned Germany about him multiple times prior to the attack .
In fact if this man was in Saudi and he tweeted that he was going to kill people in Saudi (yep he tweeted that prior to his crime ) he would have immediately got arrested but German authorities were oblivious to his Twitter account. Are you saying Saudi intelligence is better than that of Germany? Yep i believe so.

3/ this attack was not done by a “Saudi” nope he was stripped of his nationality which he had abandoned and he has been a German national for 20 years now nurtured by Germany until he did this attack.
This attack did not happen on Saudi soil either so it’s not the fault of the Saudi government.
Your responsibility, your security failure , your problem.


4/ we have more western examples of serial killers, mass shooters , and mass stabbers than we do of Saudi. Best example is the constant barbaric news we hear from USA.

5/ Germany is complicit with Israel in what amnesty international and icj and international human right organizations referred to as gcide so you don’t get to lecture us on terrorism. This is the same Germany that not long ago gave us the Holocaust. So believe me , not a single Saudi takes German moral compass seriously for us to care about your opinions.

6/ there are millions of Hindus , Sikhs , Christians etc expats / immigrants working in Saudi
And they are far less likely to get robbed or killed in Saudi than in France or Germany or uk looking once again at Saudi’s crime index.


Rip the victims , but you only have the German intelligence and government to blame and
Not the Saudi government
Not the Saudi country
And especially not the Saudi people


Ciao
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Miram · 31-35, F


A Saudi fled to Germany in 2006 and Germany refused to hand him back to Saudi Arabia due to concerns for human rights and gave him the German nationality.
He worked in Germany as a doctor since 2006.


They were absolutely right not to hand him over, legally and rationally. Saudi has a record of murdering minorities. If you had any sense at all, you wouldn't be jumping at this opportunity to justify Saudi's policy of demanding ex- muslims back to kill them. Saudis at the time had no other motive nor information to attack him but the fact that he criticized Islam and left it. Just the way they do with thousands of others. The reason they had him on their intelligence radar was absolutely not legitimate one.



2/ Saudi Arabia warned Germany about him multiple times prior to the attack .

This part is true, and the part that it is the failure of German authorities, not Saudi Arabia.




Germany is complicit with Israel in what amnesty international and icj and international human right organizations referred to as gcide so you don’t get to lecture us on terrorism.



The people who have issues with Saudi government involvement (not this case particularly) aren't necessarily the same people who support a genocide or participated in the holocaust. So yes, they do get to criticize that disgusting monarchy and it is not hypocrisy.

As to reports of crime rates, besides the fact that there is no actual transparency, some of your very laws are a crime 🤷🏻‍♀, how do you expect that statement to be taken seriously by anyone who has a functioning brain? It is ridiculous. Your definition of what a crime is intself a crime in democratic countries.

This post is mostly a strawman. I don't see anyone attacking the Saudi arabian people over the incidence. What I see is a person taking an event out of context to defend a government from legitimate criticisms that are not necessarily related to the tragic event.

You are basically abusing human losses and using them to further your own agendas.

One more thing, you address germans as a collective, as the same as their intelligence units who failed them, their governments and their past war crimes..yet, I have seen you many times stand against similar conflations against Muslims when it comes to Islamist terrorists and even your terrorist prince. Reflect on that.
@Miram [quoteYou are basically abusing human losses and using them to further your own agendas.
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not true

this post ends up informing many people who were unaware of the real facts of this incident.
Miram · 31-35, F
@mysteryespresso

The real facts of the incident are best collected from official sources. Not from an opinion based thread that reeks of bootlicking of a dictatorship in a fetish website.
Also this

it's not like radical religious extremism was gonna help Germany anyway

The incidence itself wasn't caused by a radical muslim. It doesn't look like you even read the thread or are being informed.
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Miram · 31-35, F
@mysteryespresso

🤣 "Some say" is definitely a valid source of information to form speculations. If you read the rest, you would understand she isn't tying this incident to radical Islam.


Investigators already deduced he is not a Muslim. He left Islam. As surprising as it sounds, and not so surprising, everyone is capable of terrorism.

He is a political extremist and been advocating against Muslim refugees for years.

Go and get actually informed.
Moon3624 · 18-21, F
@Miram @mysteryespresso


I am genuinely afflicted with people who rush to comment without reading what I stated properly.

I never criticized Germany for taking him or any other refugee in not at all 😅. I criticized Germany for ignoring Saudi intelligence warnings about him being a potential danger to Germany’s security based on his social media posts.
Saudi Arabia warned Germany literally 3 times before the market attack happened.
According to Germany security officials
Riyadh alerted Germany that Al- abdulmohsen had blasted on social media “something big will happen “ .
Also warned him about his other tweets about him considering to kill German civilians.

But Germany ignored Saudi Arabian warnings.


We have a situation where
This man is no longer a Saudi citizen and lives in germany the past 20 years
And he is not saudi responsibility
Yet Saudi went out of its way to alert Germany over and over
So instead of pointing fingers at Saudi like many Germans right now are doing
If anything Saudi government should be thanked for something German intelligence should have done



“One more thing, you address germans as a collective,”

I never addressed Germans as a collective
I said “Germany “
And “ the amount of Germans”


Putting words into my mouth is not okay.


“I don't see anyone attacking the Saudi arabian people over the incidence.”

Depends on the app, because there are.
Miram · 31-35, F
@Moon3624

You did criticize it




Because the guy is pro Israel, pro anti Islam (ex Muslim ) , pro Nazi Germany , supporter of Nitinyahu , friends with Tommy Robinson etc according to his social accounts
they turned a blind eye to Saudi requests.


They rejected their request, because Saudi has a record of killing minorities. And it was a valid rejection. That is the fact.

The way you word this thread shows clearly your resentment towards how other countries refuse to hand you ex muslims. And yes, they are right to protect people who are pro-israel. Freedom of speech. Just like they should be protecting people who are pro-palestine. Until the person commits an actual crime, a real one, not ruffle your islam sensitivities, you have no claim over them. Certainly not for twisted definitions of what constitutes a crime.
Moon3624 · 18-21, F
@Miram
Yes I did because they ignored Saudi warnings based on legitimate concerns due to the fact he’s an atheist ex Shia Muslim pro Zionist their bias blurred their judgment. How is that wrong ?

Also I never said Saudi is perfect nor did I say Germany is at fault for taking in political asylum seekers


Anyways it’s funny how before the attack

he was an anti Islam pro Zionist German
And after the attack
He became a pretend atheist who’s actually Muslim
And it’s a religiously motivated attack


Just bc the guy has middle eastern roots
Or was a Muslim
They insist that it was a religious mkt motivated attack

I went through his twitter account
He’s definitely and undoubtedly an atheist
Miram · 31-35, F
@Moon3624

I am pretty sure you were aware he is an atheist. Not really going to focus on that. All the speculations in your threads are a divergence from your own moral failings. Entertaining it would be encouraging you to take advantage of a tragedy to play the victim.


The problem here to me is your criticism of Germany rejection of Saudi attempting to murder him.

This rejection happened on 2013. And it was legitimate. And they have the right to reject that request.


The intel of a possible threat happened in 2024. And it wasn't handed along a request.

You attempted to legitimate Saudi's violations of the rights of ex-muslims when you framed the rejection as unfair.
Moon3624 · 18-21, F
@Miram
“ to take advantage of a tragedy to play the victim.”

I didn’t take advantage of a tragedy I responded to hypocrisy. You put words into my mouth and changed the narrative


I am not gonna bother to go on and forth with you because it seems it will be repetitive and futile

I appreciate your engagement tho
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