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Next time Germany 🇩🇪 you better listen to Saudi Arabia 🇸🇦

A Saudi fled to Germany in 2006 and Germany refused to hand him back to Saudi Arabia due to concerns for human rights and gave him the German nationality.
He worked in Germany as a doctor since 2006.
Because the guy is pro Israel, pro anti Islam (ex Muslim ) , pro Nazi Germany , supporter of Nitinyahu , friends with Tommy Robinson etc according to his social accounts
they turned a blind eye to Saudi requests.
Some say he was secretly a Muslim but pretending to be an atheist to commit an Islamic extremist lunatic attack.
That is actually a very valid point and in the future that might turn out to be the case as investigations go on.
However why did he wait for almost 20 years to commit such a crime ? I don’t think it’s religiously motivated i believe the man is genuinely either mentally ill, has drug problems, or just a genuine psycho like the regular daily mass shooters and stabbers done by cuckoo ppl of all religions and backgrounds
What is fascinating is the amount of Germans who are using the attack as a means to be racist to Saudi people including me (I’m a Saudi ) across social media
However it’s funny because :

1/ Saudi Arabia has a lower crime index and has a higher safety index than Germany .

2/ Saudi Arabia warned Germany about him multiple times prior to the attack .
In fact if this man was in Saudi and he tweeted that he was going to kill people in Saudi (yep he tweeted that prior to his crime ) he would have immediately got arrested but German authorities were oblivious to his Twitter account. Are you saying Saudi intelligence is better than that of Germany? Yep i believe so.

3/ this attack was not done by a “Saudi” nope he was stripped of his nationality which he had abandoned and he has been a German national for 20 years now nurtured by Germany until he did this attack.
This attack did not happen on Saudi soil either so it’s not the fault of the Saudi government.
Your responsibility, your security failure , your problem.


4/ we have more western examples of serial killers, mass shooters , and mass stabbers than we do of Saudi. Best example is the constant barbaric news we hear from USA.

5/ Germany is complicit with Israel in what amnesty international and icj and international human right organizations referred to as gcide so you don’t get to lecture us on terrorism. This is the same Germany that not long ago gave us the Holocaust. So believe me , not a single Saudi takes German moral compass seriously for us to care about your opinions.

6/ there are millions of Hindus , Sikhs , Christians etc expats / immigrants working in Saudi
And they are far less likely to get robbed or killed in Saudi than in France or Germany or uk looking once again at Saudi’s crime index.


Rip the victims , but you only have the German intelligence and government to blame and
Not the Saudi government
Not the Saudi country
And especially not the Saudi people


Ciao
Miram · 31-35, F


A Saudi fled to Germany in 2006 and Germany refused to hand him back to Saudi Arabia due to concerns for human rights and gave him the German nationality.
He worked in Germany as a doctor since 2006.


They were absolutely right not to hand him over, legally and rationally. Saudi has a record of murdering minorities. If you had any sense at all, you wouldn't be jumping at this opportunity to justify Saudi's policy of demanding ex- muslims back to kill them. Saudis at the time had no other motive nor information to attack him but the fact that he criticized Islam and left it. Just the way they do with thousands of others. The reason they had him on their intelligence radar was absolutely not legitimate one.



2/ Saudi Arabia warned Germany about him multiple times prior to the attack .

This part is true, and the part that it is the failure of German authorities, not Saudi Arabia.




Germany is complicit with Israel in what amnesty international and icj and international human right organizations referred to as gcide so you don’t get to lecture us on terrorism.



The people who have issues with Saudi government involvement (not this case particularly) aren't necessarily the same people who support a genocide or participated in the holocaust. So yes, they do get to criticize that disgusting monarchy and it is not hypocrisy.

As to reports of crime rates, besides the fact that there is no actual transparency, some of your very laws are a crime 🤷🏻‍♀, how do you expect that statement to be taken seriously by anyone who has a functioning brain? It is ridiculous. Your definition of what a crime is intself a crime in democratic countries.

This post is mostly a strawman. I don't see anyone attacking the Saudi arabian people over the incidence. What I see is a person taking an event out of context to defend a government from legitimate criticisms that are not necessarily related to the tragic event.

You are basically abusing human losses and using them to further your own agendas.

One more thing, you address germans as a collective, as the same as their intelligence units who failed them, their governments and their past war crimes..yet, I have seen you many times stand against similar conflations against Muslims when it comes to Islamist terrorists and even your terrorist prince. Reflect on that.
Miram · 31-35, F
@Moon3624

I am pretty sure you were aware he is an atheist. Not really going to focus on that. All the speculations in your threads are a divergence from your own moral failings. Entertaining it would be encouraging you to take advantage of a tragedy to play the victim.


The problem here to me is your criticism of Germany rejection of Saudi attempting to murder him.

This rejection happened on 2013. And it was legitimate. And they have the right to reject that request.


The intel of a possible threat happened in 2024. And it wasn't handed along a request.

You attempted to legitimate Saudi's violations of the rights of ex-muslims when you framed the rejection as unfair.
Moon3624 · 18-21, F
@Miram
“ to take advantage of a tragedy to play the victim.”

I didn’t take advantage of a tragedy I responded to hypocrisy. You put words into my mouth and changed the narrative


I am not gonna bother to go on and forth with you because it seems it will be repetitive and futile

I appreciate your engagement tho
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Fascism is huge and very violent in the USA a Germany, Denmark, Holland, Sweden and Norway. The left in Europe has been timid and compliant like the left in the USA.
Justenjoyit · 61-69, M
I am English and have lived in Germany for many years. The Germans have worked very hard on changing what wrongs they did in the past, when people come to Germany and seek asylum they automatically come under the human rights law. After that there is a long process to be allowed to stay in the country, in this time food, housing and pocket money is provided. Its hard for the police to do anything Unless the person commits a crime or has openly joined a banned terrorist organisation. I did read that Saudi soldiers shot and killed hundreds of people trying to cross over the border into Saudi to seek asylum. So I expect in Saudi Arabia they dont get the same problems we do in the west.
Justenjoyit · 61-69, M
@Roundandroundwego Just keep to the original post please.
Moon3624 · 18-21, F
@Justenjoyit I never said Saudi does not commit human right violations
what I am saying is, Germany is committing a genocide as we speak so you don’t get to give lectures on human rights.

I didn’t criticize Germany for taking this fugitive in , not at all.
I am criticizing how Germany let this man be a doctor while his twitter account shows an unstable person
And how he tweeted about how he will kill people a long time before the attack and Germans intelligence was unable to prevent this attack .

I also stated that the Saudi country government and people are not responsible for this attack .


Your responses( with all due respect to your engagement )
Literally have nothing to do with what I am saying
Justenjoyit · 61-69, M
@Moon3624 I dont think you are understanding, the German government have to abide by the law, unless the person commits a crime or is or has joined a terrorist organisation there is not much the government or police can do, if they do act on a rummor then they can be sued by the person they are accusing, like I said I have my human rights. Unfortunately because of that there will always be things like this occurring.
it only makes sense to blame German authorities, why give asylum to crazy people anyway? it's not like radical religious extremism was gonna help Germany anyway
pancakeslam · 41-45, M
I'm expecting the Saudi government to dodge any and all responsibility while their terrorist proxies claim the glorious victory. How much are they paying you?
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pancakeslam · 41-45, M
@Moon3624 you approve of Hamas. gross.
Moon3624 · 18-21, F
@pancakeslam I don’t approve of Hamas or Israel
You approving one and not the other is gross.

At least Hamas did what they did due to illegal occupation and oppression.
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