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Cuba 馃嚚馃嚭 Before Communism: An Advanced Country

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CountScrofula41-45, M
Ah yes who wouldn't want to live in a country literally run by the American mafia.
MightyLion18-21, M
The American Mafia is better than starvation, lack of basic needs, crumbling buildings, police brutality, censorship, no freedom of speech, and mysteriously disappearing after protesting. There were more Americans living in Cuba than there were Cubans in America back then because it was so advanced no one left the country. The average person in Cuba made double the wage the average person in Spain, Italy, or Japan would make. We also had the highest caloric intake per capita in Latin America meaning the Cuban people had the least hunger problems in Latin America. In contrast, now it has the least caloric intake per capita. Cubans had the 8th highest wages in the world now they barely get enough to survive. Americans had businesses in Cuba before Communism but the island was never theirs. Cubans had the highest quality of life in Latin America despite Americans coming to the island frequently. If Americans ran the island just because they had businesses there then they would have never let the island become Communist since it would have led to them losing money. @CountScrofula
CountScrofula41-45, M
@MightyLion

> The American Mafia is better than starvation, lack of basic needs, crumbling buildings, police brutality, censorship, no freedom of speech, and mysteriously disappearing after protesting.

Lmao that literally all happened before the revolution dude and was WAY worse.

Also what starvation the US has a higher starvation rate than Cuba.
MightyLion18-21, M
It ranks last in Latin America in per capita food consumption when it use to rank first. That means the average Cuban eats less than anywhere else in Latin America when once Cubans on average ate the most in all of Latin America. It was not way worse before the revolution it was way better.

That is why all the Cubans started leaving after the Revolution. Cubans before communism had never fled their country due to there not being food, lack of freedom of speech, and police brutality. Back before Communism people could drive their yachts from Florida to Cuba with no problems and Cubans even worked jobs in Florida and went there and returned daily to their island after working. You did not see Cubans in rafts before communism.

In the 1950s Cuba had 58 daily newspapers of differing political hues and was eighth in the world in number of radio stations. The Cuban people had a voice and could express themselves now the country has gotten so bad because of communism that there aren't any newspapers or radio stations not controlled by the government due to fear of people expressing how bad communism is. If communism is so good why not just let people express themselves like how they once did before the revolution?

The same people that were running Las Vegas Casinos were running the ones in Cuba and had far greater plans for Havana than they did in California. Americans would not invest so much money in Cuba if it were poor and unsuccessful back then, the reason they did was because it was a very advanced country close to them. @CountScrofula
CountScrofula41-45, M
@MightyLion What are you talking about it ranks first

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_food_energy_intake
MightyLion18-21, M
Wikipedia can be changed by random people and the fact that Cuba is ahead of Spain shows how inaccurate the chart is because lots of Cubans flee and go to Spain where you can get enough food to survive for a month without it being rationed and in super small quantities like in Cuba. Most people that are able to get a good enough quantity of food to be contempt in Cuba have family members from abroad that send them money and buy the food for them. This is not the case for everyone. @CountScrofula
CountScrofula41-45, M
@MightyLion Alright check out the source yourself

https://ourworldindata.org/food-supply

Or find a new one. Like you're just ranting prove me wrong. "This isn't right because of this shit I just made up" isn't convincing.
MightyLion18-21, M
I'm not making things up, I am Cuban so I know how it is. You can search youtube videos and see for yourself Cubans showing what they get in food and supplies in a month from the government.

The average Cuban makes in pesos monthly what is equivalent to like 20 American dollars. This gets paid to them by the government just like the rationed foods they get.

The pesos they get paid can't buy them that much food... Especially when all the stores that sell food not given out by the government uses different currencies which cost more than the pesos they make.

According to the source you sent [quote]Note that supply figures do not include consumption-level waste (i.e. that wasted at retail, restaurant and household levels), and therefore represents food available for consumption at the retail level, rather than actual food intake.[/quote]

So your article doesn't represent "actual food intake." What your article represents is the food available for consumption that the Cubans can't buy because of the reasons I explained above. The only person that could be eating more than 3000 calories daily in Cuba would be a tourist bringing outside money or a Cuban who gets sent plenty of money from family members that live outside a country.

The person that took that data also probably got it from one of the more packed Cuban stores that are specifically dedicated to the tourists which they were when they went to Cuba to take this data. In a country that relies heavily on tourism they are going to make everything look as good as possible and food as abundant as they can.

You can search and see photos of all the stores the Cubans that live there go to and see how empty they are. Then you can search photos of the stores Cubans use to buy at before communism and see how abundant they were.

This communism in Cuba is obviously a failed system because if a doctor in Cuba needs money from a family member that works a minimum wage job somewhere in another country just to buy sufficient food then communism cannot be great.

@CountScrofula
CountScrofula41-45, M
@MightyLion I assumed you were Cuban. I'm going to imagine your family weren't impoverished and processing sugar canes for a living back under Batista.
MightyLion18-21, M
Back then farming was not as advanced as it is now so I'm pretty sure worldwide more people took part in agriculture than they do now. Back then way fewer people were poor and now everyone gets exploited by the government and a doctor in Cuba probably makes less than they would have processing sugar canes back then. By law now everyone is forced to be poor because everyone makes the same which isn't fair cause people that don't work as hard get the same as people that do and prices for things not given out by the government are absurd. You could say Cubans back then were impoverished all you want but they were never leaving the island on rafts under Batista like they started doing under Fidel Castro. Actions speak louder than words. I have family that comes from all different financial levels.

Capitalism is much better than communism because even if you start off poor you can work your way up. Communism forces people to be poor with no way out. Pretty much only corrupt high-ranking government people who are very few, people who prostitute with tourists, or taxi drivers aside from people who get money from foreign family members get extra money aside from what the government pays them. Other than that the only way a person could make a comfortable living is some sort of business but they would need to be able to produce what they are going to sell with the money they can get in the following ways I mentioned above. That is not life, that is not living it is surviving. If communism was a good system you wouldn't need to survive it.


Now buildings are collapsing, people are living in slums, there isn't medicine, and people would literally pay more for food than they would for a fancy watch. Things that weren't happening in Cuba before communism.

No country is 100% perfect but under Batista, we were flourishing and advancing more and more until Fidel Castro.

If you watched the video on this post you'd see Cubans and Havana back then and look at how they are now in pictures and you will see quite a difference.

I'm going to imagine that if in your country you were making 20 dollars a month or having to prostitute or do other things no one should have to do to survive while your President lived a luxurious life with mansions and private jets that you would not be happy about it.


@CountScrofula