When does naivete cross over into stupidity?

She's a queer conservative who believed that "gay marriage is a dead issue and Republicans are moving on."

How the f-ck do "conservatives" "move on," and remain conservative, much less reactionaries like those who call themselves conservatives these days and endorse orginalism?

She sounds to me like a misfit, who found common ground with other misfits in Trumpland, only to supsect at some point, she was just another mark.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/im-a-young-queer-conservative-the-gop-lied-to-me?

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Carissimi · F

I don’t know what you are talking about. You don’t make sense.

MistyCee

@Carissimi Ok. Sorry.

MistyCee

@Carissimi Maybe reading the link would help.

Stargazer89

@Carissimi I can't reply to your one comment because I guess I'm blocked but a lot of conservatives have not moved on

Gay marriage can not be embraced. It's amoral and against the Bible

Carissimi · F

Whether you support gay marriage or not, the horse is out of the barn. People who are married should be allowed to remain so, in my opinion. To split up families is more amoral and cruel than abiding by some religious edict. @Stargazer89

Carissimi · F

I can’t. Leftist propaganda is deleterious to my mental wellbeing. @MistyCee

Stargazer89

@Carissimi the horse is out of the barn but the fact is that a lot of conservatives don't agree with gay marriage and would want the supreme court to leave it up to the states

Conservatives have not moved on

Maybe you have but the rest of us have not

MistyCee

@Carissimi Honestly, I doubt this woman is a real "leftist" on most issues. Which is why I find her POV kind of hard to take myself.

It seems to me like being a Log Cabin Republican is a lot like being a Gypsy Nazi.

Carissimi · F

I can’t comment on Log Cabin Republicans. I don’t know much about them, and as the Republican Party is divided into real Republicans, establishment Republicans, and RINOs, I have no idea what kind they are. I doubt any Republican is a Nazi. You’d have to be a Socialist for that. @MistyCee

Carissimi · F

@Stargazer89 I take your point that some Conservatives don’t agree, and would rather split families up, and cause tremendous heartache by this (just don’t call yourselves Christians), but many Conservatives don’t believe in causing more harm.

The government allowed this to be legal, so people acted accordingly. Now, if the government wants to change the law, they must allow for existing marriages to stand, and be grandfathered. You can’t be messing people around like this, tearing families apart, just because you change the law. That’s cruel.

Stargazer89

@Carissimi it's cruel how some kids are literally indoctrinated by woke parents and end up being confused over having two moms or dads

Carissimi · F

While I agree with you that’s its child abuse to indoctrination children into Marxist Wokery, there are many gay couples who are not Woke.@Stargazer89

Carissimi · F

@Stargazer89 But you skirted my point about tearing families apart. This isn’t a Left or Right issue, its a what’s best for “this already established” family issue.

Stargazer89

@Carissimi being gay is woke by definition. Gay isn't normal and it's the left that is trying to normalize it and force it into schools.

Evangelical conservatives don't agree with homosexuality

You might have some atheistic conservatives who don't care about gay marriage but they are amoral and allow this moral depravity to increase and grow.

Established families can stay together, but there's no reason as to why gay marriages from today onwards should be allowed to happen

Carissimi · F

And that was my point. Grandfathering already established gay marriages.

As to you calling conservatives amoral for holding different views from you, I find conservative Christians who oppose gay marriage: 1: within their right and beliefs to do so. 2: conservative Christians who would tear families apart, and then call other conservatives amoral for not wanting to cause harm to the family are extremist, in my opinion.

Being gay is not the same as being Woke. Many straight people are Woke. You sound like the kind of Christian who is all fire and brimstone rather than compassion and forgiveness. You are entitled to your opinion, but I find your lack of empathy very unChristian like. @Stargazer89

Stargazer89

@Carissimi yes, lots of straight people are woke too because they push homosexuality. They are just as mislead and confused as people in fruit loop circles

It's right in the Bible that homosexuality is an abomination onto God. No debate there.

Although I said existing marriages can stay together, I'm unsure of if it is worth it. We already agreed that these marriage are used to indoctrinate kids into LGBTQ bs so I don't know and am on the fence