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Was I having a "conservative" moment ?

Earlier today I called a nail salon I used to frequent about a manicure this week. Since today was a holiday here, I figured it might be closed and I’d leave a message about going in on Tuesday. But they were open, and someone answered. I wasn’t prepared to go in, so I asked about Tuesday.

"Sorry, we’re closed tomorrow."

"Oh, okay," I replied. "Funny, todays the holiday."

"What holiday ?" She asked.

"Memorial Day".

"Oh," she replied, dismissively. "We don’t really care about that. We’re Vietnamese."

Stung, I thought, but you live and have your business here. I bit my tongue and didn’t say it, though.

She asked if I wanted an appointment on Wednesday; I told her I’d call again and hung up. She’s not the shop owner, so I might still go. 🙁
deadgerbil · 26-30
It is interesting how some people don't care about the US yet live here. Or like how some people will fly the flag of whatever country they are from but not the American one, despite living here.

I can't blame some people for having a one sided relationship with the US though, given this country's checkered past.

I've always wondered, on days like memorial day, which soldiers that have fallen in service of this country should be remembered. I wonder how a native american person would feel commemorating soldiers, with a large % of them being soldiers that fell in battles against various native peoples
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
@basilfawlty89 In my view, people can have loyalty to different countries. It's inevitable and completely understandable.

You don't suddenly lose all your history and culture if you go to another country. In addition, if you experience racism anyway (as many of these people do) then it's even more likely.

Loads of them here support other cricket and football teams. I'm not annoyed at all.
@Burnley123 Whilst losing the last bits of my naïveté I had a conversation on EP with someone from India who was not impressed with the British win during WWII. He said, "They’re no better ! What more could the Germans have done to us that they hadn’t already done, for basically the same reasons ?" 😳
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
@bijouxbroussard I can believe that. Winston Churchill is our most revered ever leader. He is despised in India for good reasons.
There maybe inner issues with what she said

In Australia we call it ANZAC Day (Australian & New Zealand Army Corps from WW1)
Years ago it was a day or so before that day and I asked an old guy regular customer of ours if he is going to ANZAC Day and he just said no, I was there rather grumpy.
I was like WOW. He is old enough.

About a week later I asked him more and it turned out he as a child was in the German camps in WW2 and showed me his number tattoo on his arm and told me some things that happened to him. He had tears in his old eyes
He just didn't want to be reminded of it.
@DeWayfarer I didn’t know your grandparents were Holocaust survivors. When I was growing up some of my older neighbors were, too. I was friends with their grandchildren and occasionally they would tell me about their lives. 😞
DeWayfarer · 61-69, M
@Robynthebeautiful no need to go into the details. Both my parents were affected, some of it worse than that. I still have problems telling the story which is incomplete on here.

I stopped at when he went into the concentration camp.
DeWayfarer · 61-69, M
@bijouxbroussard

https: //similarworlds.com/1771844-I-Am-a-Decendent-of-War-Heros/1953999-This-is-a-World-War-II-Story-on-my-fathers-side-I

Remove the space above. I do so because it's marked as sensitive and might make your post as sensitive as well.
BittersweetPotato · 31-35, F
I think her response was rude and unprofessional. If she lives in a country, she needs to at least show reapect of such national holidays and events, the culture of the place etc. Even if she genuinely can't bring herself to care since it is not her home country, no need to express it as such, and definitely do not express it to a customer!!

I was raised in a country that's not mine. I often participated in national holidays.. only recently I have become less interested and it is mainly because I have grown frustrated with my life here. Nevertheless, i would NEVER say something similar to someone here, especially to a critizen of the country, well because it is disrespectful to their country, which I live in.
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
Festivals mean different things to different people.

Over here, the poppy is a symbol of memorial day. To most Brits, it means remembering the troops who put in brave sacrifices for a greater cause, for example, against NAZI Germany.

To the Irish it means something different. A minor scandal came about a few years ago when James McLean, then a minor premiership footballer, refused to wear a poppy. Whilst the guy is technically British, he was born and raised in Derry, Northern Ireland. It's a staunchly Catholic and Irish Republican area. To the community from which he came, the poppy is a symbol of the British army, i.e. the oppressor.

Nonetheless right leaning tabloids and social media was outraged accusing him of a lack of respect for the dead. This badly missed the point. When I wear a poppy, it's out of respect for the dead, not loyalty to the British state. For him, it's something different.

In Vietnam, literally millions died either directly or indirectly with the war against America. A lot of American soldiers were forced to fight in an awful war but to the Vietnamese, the suffering was far greater.

Symbols, events... different perspective.
Harmonium1923 · 51-55, M
I can imagine why the Vietnamese might not be thrilled at honoring US veterans. But it's more likely a general cultural issue about being unaware of nation-specific holidays.
DeWayfarer · 61-69, M
Odd, yet you'll get that attitude from other foreign people. Not just vietnamese. I've seen it from Koreans as well as those from India. Lack of national pride.
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Abstraction · 61-69, M
If I lived in Vietnam I probably wouldn't be excited about Hùng Kings Temple Festival. It has no resonance or pride for me. I wouldn't work though, but only because my culture is lazy and we like time off. If there's a bit of colour and good food (and where isn't there good food in Vietnam!?) I'd go out somewhere.
Nanoose · 61-69, M
I don't think you were having a conservative moment - if you were having a conservative moment you would of screamed at them and told them that they should be arrested and hung for treason. Cheers!
@Nanoose Lol, true. 😆
@Nanoose You mean she would have told them to go back to where they came from.
@Spunkylama Omg, that would’ve truly been the conservative response !
sarabee1995 · 26-30, F
Yeah, okay, mixed feelings of course... But, my feelings don't dictate her rights. She has the right to honor or not honor any holiday she wishes. 🤷‍♀️
@sarabee1995 And I knew that was true, even while thinking, "how dare you ?!" I surprised myself.
sarabee1995 · 26-30, F
@bijouxbroussard I get it. We are entitled to our "how dare you?" moments just as she is entitled to her right not to honor our war dead (some of whom likely killed family members of hers 🤷‍♀️).

It's a complicated world. But both hers and our feelings are valid. Right? ❤️
BackyardShaman · 61-69, M
Trust me, I’m not concerned that you have “conservative moments”😂
@BackyardShaman Perhaps not. 😄
Lilymoon · F
I'd take my business elsewhere. 🤦‍♀️
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@uncalled4 Yeah, I considered it very rude.

 
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