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Evangelical Christian upbringing reflections

I can remember my first day at school. That was nearly 60 years ago now. I remember lots of kids, a kind lady (Miss Fitzpatrick I think). I remember those metal trough things with sand and water in and wearing a big smock thing that was old. I remember most kids had new smart ones.

However I don't ever remember going to Sunday school for the first time. I remember an old lady handing out sweets as we left the old church hall behind the main building. I remember that getting rebuilt. I remember Viv (who's still a close friend) sat with me in our group, Graham who sadly died last year and Richard our "teacher" who had a hunchback. He died in a motorbike accident when I was about 8 and the first time I really had to deal with loss and grief.

We attended an Evangelical Free church. My grandma had had something to do with it's creation in the 1930s when she was a "fever nurse" at the old isolation hospital whose grounds are now wildwoods that's pretty much impossible to get into.

Grandma was revered at church. She and mum always wore hats for Sunday morning service. We were trooped on to sit on the floor at the front after Sunday school. Grandma would always have a conversation with the pastor critiquing his sermon.

It was fundamentalist stuff. Complete belief in the word of God. In creation, the virgin birth, Christ's resurrection and ascension etc. The devil is always tempting you etc. So in my early teens it rubbed against school learning. Evolution was the devil's work. Trying to discuss sedimentary rock formations on a church walk on the coast meant three weeks going to the Manse for extra bible study.

At 15 I rebelled and stopped going just after my elder brother had. My sister was a full born again believer by then.

My grandma died when I was 18. I remember going with mum to church not long after. She didn't wear a hat. Within a year she moved to an Anglican church. She became church warden there. I tried again in my early 20s going to that church. But hypocrisy was rife and I soon abandoned it.

I've a very good friend who's church warden at the same parish mum was. Viv still attends the old evangelical church and my sister is heavily involved in a very charismatic church my brother in law is an elder at.

All attempt to get me to redeem my soul by going back to church but I just don't believe in any of it enough. My sister generally avoids conversations with me about it.

My Christian upbringing clearly shaped me, I believe in charity, thinking of others, being inclusive etc. One person in particular Rev Steve Chalke (UK readers may know him) he was a powerful preacher when I was in my teens and his inclusive action orientated ministry contrasted greatly against those that in my opinion did nothing. He's still a man who's opinions I value.

Just musing on what shapes us. What shaped you and your views?
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JustNik · 51-55, F
My experience of church was patchwork. Dad was from a devoutly catholic family and attended catholic school. I’ve been to several funerals now in that same church. Uncle Bill left his estate to it, and the priest hovered about the farm like a vulture to make sure his family didn’t take anything worth too much. Dad was - I think they call it ex-communicated- for divorcing his first wife, and his family never warmed to my mother and my half-sister was never allowed to call his mother grandma. Didn’t seem like behavior God would approve of to me. My mother was baptized Methodist I guess, but I never went to that church either. They had me and that half sister walk down to an Assembly of God church a couple blocks from our house a few times but I always came back upset because they would separate us apparently so they stopped making us go. I remember the outside of that church, but I have no memory of going in. I went to the Baptist church with Grandma Elsie a few times and that experience was colored by her personality. She was an open and authentic soul to whom people responded positively. I saw some good Christianity there. They had a lot of stairs and no wheelchair ramps though, so when her knees went, she watched church on TV instead. My mom once said to me that I must believe in God. Nothing more, so I did, but in my own way. Over the years I’ve gone on occasion with this person or that, attended weddings and funerals. The last wedding I went to I listened to that man stand up there and tell the bride it was her duty to obey her husband and give him children and the service included a prayer for Republican politicians who were going to save us. I bout puked. I’d seldom seen anything but judgement and exclusion in action, but that took the cake. I’m sure there are good churches that do good things and inspire and help people, but I don’t think they’re in the majority. I still talk to God like I always have, pray for people. I accept the possibility that nothing’s there to listen and take my comfort anyway. I like having something to thank for moments of peace and beauty. But I don’t think any manmade book is anything more than the most effective tool to control the masses and keep them at each other’s throats. 🤷‍♀
OldBrit · 61-69, M
@JustNik my nana was Elsie. Loveliest lady ever. She never went to church but she'd been a communist in the 1920s so presumably that was some of that.
JustNik · 51-55, F
@OldBrit I think I’d have liked your Elsie, too. I was thinking the other sounded a little scary. lol Was her name Frances? My Catholic one was scary, and her name was Frances. 😂
OldBrit · 61-69, M
@JustNik no she was Ethel she was a very dominant character