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Santa is welcome, but Jesus is not?

Not even the scholars know when Jesus was born, however, the day of Christmas is not the reason why Christians celebrate. While the holiday derived around a pagan holiday, for Christians, Jesus is still central to our celebration. Christmas is also derived from the Old English term, "Cristis Maesse", meaning the Mass of Christ. The celebration of Christ's birth, reminds us not only of His great love and sacrifice for us, but also the desire for universal love, joy, gratitude, and peace.

The day has nothing to do with the celebration. Where are our priorities? Christians celebrate the reason for the season...because of who Jesus is, and what He did for us. We can celebrate Christ all year round and just because we have a global celebration at a certain time of the year to emphasis our love and respect for Jesus, I don't think He's too upset about that. But I do think He is upset with people who want to do nothing but commercialize it, concentrate only on gifts, and completely ignore Him. I'm certain Satan hates it, when we celebrate Christ's birth.

I think it's a wonderful and glorious occasion when we can celebrate Jesus any time. It's the attitude of some that are pagan, that turn it into something other than what it was meant to be. We don't celebrate Christmas because the pagans did. I think God cares more about our motive, reasons, and attitude. I could be wrong, but I can't help but feel that Mary remembered and celebrated with great joy, her Savior's birthday every year, but if you don't feel comfortable doing that, then you definitely shouldn't. I personally feel the most important part of Christmas, is remembering Jesus Christ, who was born long ago to save us all (Matthew 1:21).

I think we can carry anything, too far. If you think that celebrating Christ at Christmas is going too far, then maybe we should not have funerals, or remember our loved ones on a certain day, or celebrate birthdays. Perhaps we shouldn't even have the Lord's Supper, in remembrance of Him. That occasion is held on a certain day. I think Jesus is more concerned about our heart and attitude, than the day we worship Him. Even Paul said there's no certain day that we are to gather together for worship. There was a big discussion about that, and Paul said to do what we feel is personally right. God knows where our heart is. It's pagans that turned Christmas into a gift-giving occasion, only, but that didn't include me. As with anything, we can carry things too far. Christmas is still commonly associated with Jesus's birth, and the Bible does say quite a bit about the birth of Jesus (Matthew 1-2 and Luke 1-2).

People living in the northern hemisphere celebrate winter solstice (or the shortest day of the year) smack bang in the middle of December, and this is why Christmas just so happened to fall around the same time as many existing pagan holidays. The winter solstice was a huge part of pagan life. The Romans actually celebrated two holidays in the month of December. The first was Saturnalia, which was a two-week festival honoring their god of agriculture Saturn. On December 25th, they celebrated the birth of Mithra, their sun god. We're not celebrating any pagan god. Christmas is not mentioned in the bible, one way or another and we're not told whether we should celebrate it or not. I think the whole thing has to do with our reason/heart for our celebration, and God knows where it is, when it comes to loving Him. I think he cares more about the REASON why we're celebrating.

I don't feel Jesus would be upset with us commemorating His birth...spreading the message of love, good will, and compassion: ...fostering togetherness and family bonding...remembering that He is the Light, in a world of darkness...nor for promoting Peace and Unity. It is also a time to reflect on love, compassion, and good will to others, fostering togetherness among families and communities. A time to refresh our Spirit in the Lord.
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helenS · 36-40, F Best Comment
To me, the essential point is Luke 2:7
"And she brought forth her firstborn son, and wrapped him in swaddling clothes, and laid him in a manger; because there was no room for them in the inn."

The savior of us all was not a warlord, not a billionaire, and not the son of some Earthly king. He was born in a manger because there was no room for them in the inn.

Warlords, kings and millionaires won't save our souls, but an innocent helpless child can (if we want it)

"Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven."

Merry Christmas dear Lady Grace! 🌷
LadyGrace · 80-89
@helenS WOW, Helen!! What a beautiful, beautiful message. Perfect!!

Merry Christmas, dear sister in Christ. 🌹🤗🙏

Horsefrost · 46-50, M
I think the dates of birth do not matter here. Any date could have been taken. Our main objective is to fix some time where we actually do think, praise and discuss about him most of the time.


And winters are the best time to think of the Lord for with winter, mood swings do come and the ray of light is nearly absent and The ray of Light in the form of HOPE comes back when we think, read, focus, watch, hear and discuss more about the Lord. It gives us hope in otherwise a dull cold season. So, it's significant.

P. S.
Now, to the people who live in Australia and South Africa, I would say that the majority of the population lives in Northern Latitudes therefore we can think of this time of month as actual WINTERS. I kkow that you guys are naturally happy around this time of the year for you have a sunny day.
Such a great post for this time of year.

It's great for people like me who struggle, having grown up in a secular family, with what we think of when you say 'Christmas'.

For me I still think of opening presents, last minute shopping and Christmas trees but posts like this really help to get my mind focused on what it is all about.
LadyGrace · 80-89
@BritishFailedAesthetic Clearly stated and understandable. Thanks for your reply. It's easy to fall into that frame of mind. I think we all do it at times, even myself, but then it's great to remember the real reason for the season.
@LadyGrace And a great catchy expression from you to help us too!
pdockal · 56-60, M
The scholors can get close to his birthday because they were traveling to pay taxes and they know when taxes were collected @ that time

December was choose because of the pagan holiday/ celebration @ that time which did include a "Christmas tree"
LadyGrace · 80-89
@pdockal Okay, I apologize. I had only read the verse that said they went to be registered. Registered being the keyword, but it had said nothing about actually paying the taxes at that same time. That's what threw me and I had not read about that and quite some time. But here's the verse on what you were saying, which is true:

Did Joseph go to Bethlehem to be taxed True False?
Luke 2:3-5 And all went to be taxed, every one into his own city. And Joseph also went up from Galilee, out of the city of Nazareth, into Judaea, unto the city of David, which is called Bethlehem; (because he was of the house and lineage of David:) To be taxed with Mary his espoused wife, being great with child.

Thanks so much for pointing this out and refreshing my mind. 👍🙏🤗
LadyGrace · 80-89
@pdockal Beautiful. Beautiful!! Thank you so much for the correction. I think these things are important that we get the scriptures right. It's just that it had been so long since I had actually read the accounts in all four Gospels. Thank you, brother. God bless you!
pdockal · 56-60, M
@LadyGrace

Your welcome
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"Santa is welcome, but Jesus is not?" Excellent point. People can mold and create fantasies [Santa-Christmas] as long as they don't have to be responsible or accountable.
LadyGrace · 80-89
@SW-User
People can mold and create fantasies [Santa-Christmas] as long as they don't have to be responsible or accountable.

So true!! Thanks for pointing that out. I wish everyone understood that.
SatanBurger · 36-40, F
Christmas even though it is a religious holiday can just be a time to spend with family. It's not the Orthodox way of doing it but you can have Santa be welcomed without Jesus. It's just a get together and to celebrate yourself and those you may care about or who you cared about
LadyGrace · 80-89
@SatanBurger I was just saying that Jesus really is the reason for the season. I hope you and your family have a very Merry Christmas.
IllThinkOfSomething · 31-35, M
It amazes me how massive your persecution complex is. Christianity is one of the biggest religions in human history. It's utterly impossible to escape its touch anywhere. And you still constantly whine and cry about some completely fabricated persecution. Jesus would be thoroughly disappointed in this nonsense. If, to you, Christmas is about celebrating Jesus and reaffirming your faith in Him, then do it. Enjoy! But stop pretending like Christians are some tiny, embattled minority on the very verge of being stamped out.
Peterpaul17 · 36-40, M
@IllThinkOfSomething There is a difference between Religion Christianity and being Christian. Due to your less exposure, probably you are not able to make out the difference. But later in life, you will.
Peterpaul17 · 36-40, M
@IllThinkOfSomething Christianity is the world's largest religion but Christians are not too many. Commercializing Christmas has a point which I reiterate every Christmas.

 
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