Both completely full of half truths and outright lies.
Christ was God in the flesh (God the Son) he took the punishment we all deserve and had God's wrath poured on him for our sin, so that those who trust in him and his sacrifice will not be damned to hell but have everlasting life. What's more on the third day he rose again- not a Republican suit or a hippy socialist either (though you don't get many hippy socialists these days 🤭)
So the last will be first, and the first last (Matthew 20:16; see also Mark 10:31 and Luke 13:30)
The theoretical conclusions of the Communists … express, in general terms, actual relations springing from an existing class struggle, from a historical movement going on under our very eyes (Manifesto of the Communist Party)
Marx is famous for championing history “from below,” from the perspective of the working class, of the poor, of everyday people who show not merely a remarkable ability to take the initiative, but who are actually the prime movers of history. Peasants, slaves, serfs, colonised people, workers – these and more are the real causes of what happens in the world. The “big men” – so often the focus of history and politics – are constantly trying to respond to these real causes. They may seek to express their deepest wishes, but more often than not they try to curtail the radical demands of ordinary people.
In the Gospels, Jesus wishes to spend far more time with the despised and dregs of society – prostitutes, winos, “sinners’ and so forth. These are the “little ones” (Matthew 10:42; 18:6-14; Mark 9:42; Luke 17:2), the “least” (Matthew 25:40-5), the “last.” In the thorough shakeup of the “kingdom of God,” these are the ones who will be raised up and made first. A distinct angle on this approach from below may be found in a spatial analysis. Palestine at the time of Jesus was arranged in terms of polis and chora. The former designates the Hellenistic city, with its Greek architecture, language, culture, religion and practices. The polis was the location of power, wealth, the ruling class and the colonizing army of the Romans. By contrast, the chora was the countryside around about the cities. Here the language was Aramaic, the culture Palestinian, and the villages operated according to tried and true practices of communal agriculture. The chora was also poor, overworked and yet living on the edge of starvation, for the polis drew all its requirements from the chora, irrespective of whether the latter could in fact do so without affecting its own livelihood. What is noticeable about the Gospel stories is that Jesus’ whole concern is with the people of the chora. Apart from his final turn to Jerusalem, he studiously avoided the polis. This was a thoroughly consistent concern with those from below
@Guitarman123 Ofcourse Jesus hung around with those who are poor, outcasts, etc.
Jesus's instructions for giving to the poor are for followers of Christ, we need to get our hands dirty! Where in the NT does Christ, Paul, etc call on governments for socialist principals?
You quote Mark 10:25 but would you like to read out Mark 10:26-27?
It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God (Mark 10:24; see also Matthew 19:24 and Luke 18:25)
It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God (Mark 10:24; see also Matthew 19:24 and Luke 18:25)
You quote Mark 10:25 but would you like to read out Mark 10:26-27?
@Guitarman123 Talents- the abilities God gives to believers.
Acts 2- Applied to church communities where they showed Christ's love to each other and often had to hide from the Roman government, nothing to do with government principles.
@BritishFailedAesthetic marx wanted a society where their was no capitalism, state or any hierarchy. One where they're workers co operatives and everyone is in charge of their own destiny and realised that positive change comes from the people and not those at the top
@BritishFailedAesthetic marxs father was forced to convert to Christianity in order to keep his job as a lawyer. The church and state were integrated in maintaining power and influence over society
@Guitarman123 That's not what the church should be about either.
But the Gospel is about eternal salvation and being saved from hell, not some far left Marxist ideology which has failed in every Country it's ever been tried in. Let me guess.
@BritishFailedAesthetic none of them were communist countries and never claimed to be. Unlike these so called Christians who pretend to follow the teachings of jesusthey knew that theyd have to develop towards communism and adapt socialism to the environment of their countries. Marxism has never been implemted
