Those chanting "christ is king" would hate jesus if he was alive today

@Adstar its impossible for him to have been white considering where he came from.

@Adstar that picture above is far more likely an accurate representation

@Guitarman123 I said in my first reply that Jesus was not white... So of course he never looked like the European one depicted... Jesus would have had the hair of the brown guy but His skin color would have been lighter..

Over time with the effects of slavery that lasted a lot longer in the middle east,, The color of middle eastern people has tended to get darker over the last 2000 years.. Even in current day Middle east Syrians and Kurds who are closer to the genetic line of Jesus are fairer then the darker depiction in your examples..

@Adstar citizens of those countries vary in colour. Some are darker than others. Same even in spain

@Guitarman123 True.. Some whites are white. some whites are redish. some whites are creamy..

Some whites are brown..

@Adstar exactly. Im all for the historical figure of jesus christ but despise the western interpretation

@Guitarman123 Your supposed "'western version"" is not accurate.. There are many different versions in different denominations in the western world.. There are different factions even within many denominations..

And some things in your ""western list"" are actually correct..
Some of the different interpretations in your list are both wrong..
Some point to the teachings of Jesus for His followers.. But do not apply to The LORD Jesus Himself..

@Adstar they're christian athiests who completely follow the teachings of jesus but don't believe in god. Jesus would be dismissed as a woke commie in today's environment

@Guitarman123

Let me go through your competing lists::

White skinned vs Middle eastern Brown skin..

As i said Jesus was not white.. Jesus was middle eastern but He was not brown. He was more Olive skinned..

Christian vs Jewish

Jesus was the founder of Both religions but he was also above both religions because Jesus is God made manafest in the flesh.. Christianity is a progression of Judaism.. Christianity includes Judaism.. The Old testament Torah is in the Christian bible..

Justice through retrabution vs Justice through restoration..

Jesus message was Eternal salvation through the Atonement of Jesus.. Justice through retrabution is a Torah based concept not Christian .. And justice through restoration??? What does that even mean?? restoration of what??

Died for your sins vs Killed by church abd state..

Yes Jesus died to pay the penalty for my sins thats biblical and true.. It would be more correct to say killed by Sinagog and the roman state.. The ""Church"" did not exist during the times of Jesus..

Sends sinners to hell vs Friend of sinners and outcasts..

Both are true.. Jesus is the final judge who will judge all people and yes he will be sending people to hell.. And Jesus was and still is a loving friend to Sinners and Outcasts.. But in the end those sinners and outcasts must befriend Jesus by beliving Him and trusting in His Atonement.. One way love never makes a relationship.. Without a relationship with Jesus those people are damned no matter how much Jesus loves them..

Silent in the face of oppresion vs Liberates the oppresed..

Both are true.. He was like a silent lamb when he was accused and He offeres eternal life liberated from all orpession..

Condemns sinners vs quitiques religous people..

Jesus condemns sin and critiqued religious people.. He created the way for Sinners to avoid condemnation.. But in the end He will condemn those who do not embrace the way He made for them to be saved..

Endorces Church and state vs Subverts empire

Both are wrong.. Jesus said His kingdom was not of this world.. But never preached rebelion against the roman empire..

A King vs homeless man and Child refuge..

Jesus is the King of Kings and he experienced being a Child refuge.. techniqly speaking Jesus had access to the home of Joseph and Mary during his time on earth.. But he chose to adopt a wandering life in Israel as part of his mission to give the Gospel..

Upholds traditional family unit vs had half siblings..

Both are True..

Endorces Holy War vs Non violent..

Jesus during his time on earth never called for or endorsed holy war.. So he was mostly non violent during his time on earth.. He did however drive the money exchangers out of the temple by using a whip.. And when jesus returns He will destroy the Army of the beast on the plaines of Megeddo.. and army of 200 million will be eliminated by Jesus on the day of His return..

So while Jesus ordered his followers not to engage in war, He being the LORD can and will engage in just wrath when the time comes..

@Guitarman123
Well they would have a false view of Jesus.. Jesus was not woke and He definitely was not a commie.. And as for ""Atheist Christians""".. NOPE.. No one ever succeeds in completely following the teachings of Jesus.. That's why we need the Atonement of the LORD Jesus.. Because everyone Fails to live up to the standards of Jesus..

@Adstar didn't jesus associate himself with sinners and outcasts? Or say "And they sold their possessions and goods and distributed them to all, as any had need "(Acts 2:45)

@Adstar or this

It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God (Mark 10:24; see also Matthew 19:24 and Luke 18:25)

@Guitarman123 Go, sell what you have,” he tells the rich man who asks for the secret of eternal life (Mark 10:21; Matthew 19:21;

@Guitarman123
Yes Jesus spentt a lot of time with people who where considered serious sinners by others ( In truth all people on earth where and are sinners ) Jesus did so because His missionwas to Save Sinners from the eternal judgement they faced because of their sins.. Jesus never associated with sinners to promote or justify their sins..

And yes Jesus encouraged people to give their material wealth to their brothers and sisters in Christ.. But thats not communism because THEY Willingly GAVE of their wealth.. It was not confiscated by the Government by force.. Charity is not communism. Charity is something you willingly give to a person in need out of love for the other.. communisim is just thieft carried out by a thug backed by the State..


Yes Jesus said that.. But note He did not say it was Impossible for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of heaven.. Jesus said with God nothing is impossible.. Jesus also said the Love of Money is the source of evil.. He understood when people love their money over other people they will not love other people and their wealth ends up being the stumbling stone that causes them to fall..


Yep because the young rich man asked Jesus what good thing He could do to inherit the kingdom of Heaven.. Jesus had to break his belief that it was by doing good works that one justifys their own entery into heaven. Jesus knew the young rich mans fault.. The young man loved his money and Jesus knew he would not sell all he had and give it all to the poor.. But if you read the actual scriptures Jesus also added after he said sell all you have,, Then come follow Me.. pointing to the actual way a man can be saved. By being a follower of the LORD Jesus.. have read of the verses in context..

(Luke 18:22-25) "Now when Jesus heard these things, he said unto him, Yet lackest thou one thing: sell all that thou hast, and distribute unto the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come, follow me. {23} And when he heard this, he was very sorrowful: for he was very rich. {24} And when Jesus saw that he was very sorrowful, he said, How hardly shall they that have riches enter into the kingdom of God! {25} For it is easier for a camel to go through a needle’s eye, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God."

@Adstar communism is abolition of private property and replacing it with common ownership of the means of production in a classless and stateless society. Calling communism backed by the state is as meaningless as the concept of jesus being white and blonde. If jesus existed today hed be friends with todays social outcasts which is mostly transgender people. He was friends with thieves, lepers and prostitutes. Polar opposite of how they are treated by so called "Christians" of today who claim to follow the teachings of jesus while not treating people like they would like to be treated

Right and Wrong.. Yes it abolishes people personally owning things.. But it replaces that with state ownership.. thats why John Lennon sang the lyrics ""Imagine no possessions"" in his Imagine communist promoting song..

Now if a person does not have any personal possessions then they cannot give anything to another person as charity,, can they. A 20 dollar bill must first be yours before you give it to the beggar on the street.. If you own nothing you cannot share anything with another because you have to first own something to give it away or share it.. Communism ends Charity..

communism has always been backed by state power.. Communism needs state power to exist.. Humans don't give up their property without the threat of violence.. remember what happened to the Private Ukrainian farmers when starlin decided to nationalize their farms.. Stalin confiscated their food until he and his NKVD thugs has starved the farmers into submission or death..


Yes He would be and still is their Friend.. he loves them.. But he does not love their SIN.. I want transgenders to be saved but i will never seek to justify their transgenderism.. Just as Jesus loves murderers and wants to save them.. I want murderers to be saved but i will never try to justify their acts of murder... This is a basic Christian teaching.. Love the sinner Hate the sin.. It's something that so so so many people just cannot comprehend.. Especially the wokist extremists.. They think hating the sin = hating the sinner.. They cannot understand how you can hate the sin while at the same time loving the sinner.. So in their minds Christians hate the LGBTQ community.. NO.. I want each and every LGBTQ person to be with me in Gods eternal perfect Paradise..

And yeah some Christians are not Christians..

But oddly enough Some of the most hard core street preachers are considered by the Woke as the greatest haters of the LGBTQ community when all they are doing is informing them of their Sin.. Thus revealing to them their NEED for the Atonement of the LORD Jesus.. Because they want the LGBTQ people to end up being forgiven and SAVED from the eternal lake of fire..

Once again many non Christian cannot get their minds around the concept of loving the sinners but hating sin... So they conclude that the Christian street preacher MUST hate both the Sinner ans their sins..

I'm off to bed.. It is past midnight here in Australia.. cya tommorow God willing..

@Adstar communism and state are an oxymoron. Thats like saying anarchism and capitalism need each other to exist. Communism workers owned co operatives in a stateless society

@Adstar Just one point;

Jesus did not "found" any religions. Judaism was already some 2 to 3 millennia old by his time; established by the likes of Moses and Abraham but probably drawing on Zoroastrianism and other contemporary, older faiths.

He was Jewish, as were his disciples; and his teachings would likely have remained a Jewish sect had the Roman Empire not converted to Christianity, which was established some 3 centuries after his death.

Nor of course was he any sort of political figure, although the Jewish temple elders saw him as a threat to their power. The Romans did not usually oppress local religions in their Empire, as long as these were not seen as a threat - as when they later persecuted the early Christians.