Idol of Jesus Christ

I made an idol of Jesus Christ with my hands. Exodus 20:4-5
King James Version
4 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.

5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;

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LadyGrace ·

I don't understand your post. You show an idol you made and then list two verses that say not to worship idols. The Bible is very clear on that. We are not to worship any image or picture of God. No images made of anyone, including God. That is one of the ten commandments.

The Bible prohibits the worship of images in Exodus 20:4–5a, which states, "You shall NOT make for yourself a carved image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth".

Motzu

Christianity grew out of Iconoclastic Judiasm.

Both Christianty and Judiasm bounced back and forth on having graven images, such as the Nehushtan of Moses:

Jews had a love hate relationship with it, depending on how iconoclastic they were at any given period. In Christianity Jesus is the embodiment of Nehushtan.

In Antiquity, Roman Christians only made 5 idols of Christ, and I've seen one of them. They are creepy little things made for a mostly recently converted populations still very much pagan to have in their festive processions. As they were increasingly Christianized they were put away in shrines and then largely forgotten.

We bounced back and forth between strict iconoclasm and having icons in the middle ages.

In general the underlining ideology of iconography isn't one of idolatry but rather one of rememberance or intercession. Some trespass on this but more or less most don't, and it is little more than decorative art like a statue of Madonna in a cemetary or outside church. The Bhakti form of worshipping idols in a estatic state was universally stomped out of christianity as paganism fell. It isn't something we do, and when some head in that direction, you'll find contemporaries who said it wasn't right. The Judeo-Christian tradition is one that rejects the adoration of the xoanon. If I saw someone confusing a statue of christ as a xoanon, I would recommend getting rid of the statue as such a person doesn't grasp what Christianity is about.

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Motzu

@LadyGrace If you are christian you belong to a branch, even if membership is just one person within it.

Secondly, your belief in my statements is not required for it to be truth. It happened. History happened. Alot of upsetting, backwards, crazy stuff happened in history. You learn to accept this when you study history. You should study history. You would be used to this shock.

Most people who studied history, if they didn't believe a historical statement of fact, would say "What are your sources". You didn't even bother with that much. So in reply I am saying to you in a very generic sense study history, any history, any period, any culture. Just study it. Get back to me in a few years after the shock has worn off and discernment and logical skepticism instead of akepticism rooted in blind faith has taken root, and we can talk.

LadyGrace ·

@Motzu You don't know what you're talking about. As a Christian, I don't belong to any select group. You don't know me so don't tell me what I belong to. The only one I belong to is Jesus Christ, not some select group. Jesus didn't die for religious groups. He died to save the whole world, not just some.

As for the rest of your rhetoric, I think I'll just leave you to stew in your own fantasies.

Motzu

@LadyGrace As a christian, you default belong to a group, it's a class called Christians. This is Bertrand Russell Logic 101.

If you are a Christian, and every christian is part of a subclass within it, which is a logical statement 100% true, then you are in a subclass, call it a denomination or group, and as a type you have a set of beliefs- we will take your statements about what you believe from above, if you stated true statements about the nature of your beliefs, as the type of your beliefs.

Not all christians will agree. Proof: I am a Christian, I do not agree with you. Therefore, we can deduce at least two types of Christians exist. At least two. I know for a fact a whole lot more exist.

Whether you agree with this statement or not does not override the logical correctness of the stated facts. Your beliefs I am wrong is not enough to syllogistically contradict the statements. If anything, it is more reasonable to assume you are wrong, and I am right, as we are both christians who disagree, and therefore more than one type of christian exists: My Type and Your Type. Your disbelief pretty much confirms you are wrong, if you believe your statements to be true, you cannot be right, by the fact you disagree with me.

LadyGrace ·

@Motzu Never label me as a select group of Christianity. You would be wrong to judge me. The Bible says we belong to no one but Jesus, for those who are Christians. It's embarrassing that you don't know this. I ask you to not write me again.

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LadyGrace ·

@Motzu I've had enough of your sarcasm. Please go your own way.

Motzu

@LadyGrace That wasn't sarcasm. That's the most elementry level you need to grasp what I am saying. If you do not know these symbols, it is understandable you hold the position that you do. If you know what these things do, then you should intuitively grasp why you are wrong.

LadyGrace ·

@Motzu it seems we have different views and that's okay.

SparkleLeaf · 51-55

Yeah but check out Numbers chapter 21 where God actually commands Moses to break that commandment.

siddhikoli · 26-30, F

@SparkleLeaf i know 😊

LadyGrace ·

@SparkleLeaf
No, in Numbers chapter 21, God commands Moses to erect a snake image on a pole as a remedy for venomous snakes sent to attack the Israelites.

Here's some more information about the story in Numbers chapter 21:

The story shows how the Israelites forgot how God liberated them from Egyptian slavery and God's call for them to be a holy nation.

In response to the Israelites' mutiny, God sends venomous snakes to attack them.

Moses prays to God on behalf of Israel, and God tells him to erect a bronze image of a snake on a pole. Not to worship it, but in order to be healed.

The Israelites then looked at the snake and were healed.

Quimliqer · 70-79, M

What is being said is don’t make idols and worship them.

pikminboy · 31-35, M

hahaha looks nice 😆

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