I don't believe in god, but...people who are christians say they have a just god....

@Adstar Wait....He is perfect but cannot compromise justice? Not the kind of god I would be. Yeah, I get all of the the atonement stuff....it's the temporal effects, he could address....pretty weak to say that an innocent child being born with severe disorders is a product of a just god imo.

@originnone [quote]Wait....He is perfect but cannot compromise justice? Not the kind of god I would be. Yeah,[/quote]

Well yes thats a big part of my point.. You are not God.. Therefore thinking that God would do things the way you would do them is a very flawed mental exercise..

[quote] I get all of the the atonement stuff.[/quote]

Do you??? Do you embrace it or reject it then?

[quote]pretty weak to say that an innocent child being born with severe disorders is a product of a just god imo.[/quote]

That's the product of a dysfunctional world a sabotaged creation.. In the garden of Eden the first humans went bad like Fukushima and you know the half life of some of those radiological material will see them radioactive for tens of thousands of years, so little kids all over the world will be getting cancer for a thousand generations because someone thought nuclear power was the way to go.. Decisions have consequences sometimes for thousands of years..

As for me i have hope that God is going to renew the earth and fix all our stuff ups.. What hope can an unbeliever have???? None..

@Adstar Building the plants at Fukushima was not a mistake. A once in a thousand year event happened. Humankind could have pre....no WAIT....god could have prevented it.

As far as your last paragraph, I'm in total agreement, but I can't force myself to believe.

@originnone Of course building Fukushima was a human mistake.. Building 6 nuclear reactors on the pacific coast where it is subject to known earthquake and Tsunamis is just moronic and setting up the diesel driven coolant pumps right down near the ocean surface is criminally stupid.. And to hear you say it was not a mistake puts you into the moronic category too.. You have Zero credibility we me now man.. ""was not a mistake"" makes me laugh..

@Adstar Then block me. It still wasn't a mistake.